all this about mostto and KO having had their chance and blown it...

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  1. arc

    arcticmonkeyred New Member

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    what about last season???? nardiello did absoltuely f**k all till the last quarter of the season and now everyone bums him
    neil shipperley didnt score until the 2 goals v sheff utd at home...he was the last real goal scorer we had!!

    they WILL come good...mostto doesnt lose the quality he had to be top scorer in the south american version of the champions league and odejayi has raw potential...but with the booing and slating of him thats has happened recently its going to ruin him as its obvious hes a confident player

    both strikers need a goal off their knee or shin or anything and i belive that could start them off

    however now with maken and "the messiah" back i think their first team chances will be very few and far between

    7 strikers and only 5 needed imho

    macken,nardiello and ferenczi obvious 1st team choices then one to join istvan on the bench, and one back up for injuries and suspensions from mostto,KO,christensen and coulson

    Christensen is gone for me somethings happened there and Davey seems to be liking coulson at the moment so i think it looks bad for mig and KO
     
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    Conkotyke Active Member

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    I will bum KO and Migs

    if they get 10 goals each by the end of the season! :D
     
  3. Gue

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    RE: I will bum KO and Migs

    they should be able to do wakefield and wormwood scrubs before the season is out

    then they can try parkhurst and broadmoor
     
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    You've obviously forgotten...

    Leeds then? :)
     
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    Odejayi does not have raw potential, he is 26 years old. He should be in his prime, he is not a championship footballer. You can get away with being big and quick in the bottom 2 leagues just look at Kandol at Leeds, but it doesn't work when you step up to the next level. You need something more like the ability to control a moving ball, or shoot, or even pass to a team mate. Not good enough and time to go back down a league or two.
     
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    bangbababing New Member

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    Mostto is a terrible player, he's had enough time to settle in now and hasn't justified the money we paid for him. Running into good positions and then throwing your arms up when you don't get get the pass doesn't make you a good player.
     
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    Thrappo Tyke Well-Known Member

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    I'd say Odejayi will cause more problems for most defenders that Mossto. Ok so neither look like scoring, but Odejayi has a lot of pace and if he could learn to put himself about a bit more he could be a really useful sub striker to unsettle defences near the end.
     
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    He can't shoot or pass, the only thing he can do is run and he doesn't do that enough. He is an athlete not a footballer.
     
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    Nads scored two on his debut didn't he?

    It's pretty obvious from the start that he had ability.

    As for Shipperley, he was already (at the very least) a proven "championship" player when he arrived. He was more of a target man, so he would always contribute (even when he didn't score).

    IMHO, Mostto & KO don't really fall into either category - they are both gambles that SD looks desperate to correct.
     
  10. Gue

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    Just watch Mostto movement off the ball (if ever gets on again!). Some of the runs he makes are perfect, he's just not getting the service as I don't think the other players we have can think quick enough what he wants (Chopra had a similar problem when he came). Agree woth KO, think he is slightly out of his depth and his style of play doesn't fit the Championship. Like Arcticmonkeyred says, you don't score goals at a high level and become crap over night. Drogba was crap in his first year, and as someone pointed out Tevez was as well. Before anyone shoots me down for saying he's not as good, I'm not saying he is, he just needs time to settle in to the life, pace and style of play in the Championship.
     
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    Mostto may make all those runs, but we don't have a plan to get the get the ball to him, he's gonna look like a waste of space. It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is....
     
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    I agree about Mostto, i just hope gets on the bench before Odejayi I just cant see it though.
     
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    KO needs to get shipped out on loan. Not got it at the moment. Needs some confidence
     
  14. Gue

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    It's all very well keep defending Mossto and saying stuff like he makes runs through the middle, gets in good positions but doesn't get the service, etc. But Odejayi, whatever his shortcomings usually has two or three good chances (often one-on-one with keeper) in a game. Yes, he usually skies them over or misses the goal completely but at least he battles his way through and makes chances for himself in the first place.
    If Mossto was served free lunch in a restaurant, rather than eat the meal he'd be waving his arms furiously at the waiter for having left him to go and fetch the knives and forks.
     
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    Which wouldn't be necessary anyway as they probably eat with their fingers in Peru.
     
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    Glad to see someone sees it my way.</p>

    I'm not saying KO is any better necessarily, or indeed Mossto is any worse, but KO seems to have something about him which must unsettle defences. Sounded like he had a decent impact against Sarfend anyways. He appears to have more of an ability to create chances from nothing...all he has to do now, is learn how to finish!</p>
     
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    not talking about nads's debut...

    im on about last season...did absolutely nothing till last quarter of season where his contract was up and was putting himself in shop window if you ask me
    shipperley...didnt he score one goal for his last club?? cant remember who it is
     
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    arcticmonkeyred New Member

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    plus its another example of nads putting himself in the shop window

    on loan so he did the business....quietened down once we signed him...end of last season was on fire...wouldnt be suprised if he did it again starting tonight
     
  19. Gue

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    RE: plus its another example of nads putting himself in the shop window

    Re: however badly Mossto appears, he must be a good player because he scored lots of goals at international level before he came to Oakwell.
    Using the same logic, if we were to discover that Dave Regis, unbeknown to us at the time, had represented his country many times and averaged around one goal per three games would we now believe that we had an outstanding striker on our books?
     
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    Lots of people have made the point about Mostto making all these runs

    I hadn't noticed, so the last game he played I watched him the whole match to see these amazing runs he was making. He didn't make any. None. He stuck to his marker the whole game and made no space up front what so ever.
     

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