All this negativity...

Look everyone, please read this and KNOW that I am not having a go at you, or anyone else for that matter.

I, personally, have very little experience when it comes to football management. It stops at Championship Manager, with a dash of Saturday morning goalkeeping coaching for the U14's at Normanton. That's it. I don't know what you're experience is, but I'm willing to bet that it in no way, shape or form comes close to that of an actual Football League Championship manager.

No one on this board, and when I say no one, I mean, NO ONE, knows the situation that Simon Davey is in. They don't know what he has to spend on transfers. They don't know what he has to spend on wages. They don't know what the situation is (if any) between he and the likes of Liverpool re Adam Hammill; between him and Rangers re Charlie Adam; between him and Charlton re Andy Gray. People assume too much.

The fact of the matter is, is that Simon Davey, whether you like him or hate him, as done a good job for Barnsley football club. He is a young manager, with very little in the way of football league experience at a managerial level. He has come to a football club, chock full of voracious, fickle, often outspoken fans and kept us in the Championship for the past three years. Now, for some, that may not be good enough - but for me, a realist, it's good enough. I hope to god that one day, we will reach those dizzy heights of the Premiership again, but it's going to take time, and patience.

I mean, there are even people moaning that we are playing part-time teams during pre-season, AND winning! I mean, what the hell is all that about? It really does make you wonder what is going on in these peoples heads. To quote someone on here, "Oh, if Davey had spent more time looking for decent players, instead of organising friendlies against *****, then we would've been alright"...Like, what? What? How the hell do you know what Davey is doing? It's pre-season, and the prime objective is to get the current squad fit, and raring to go come August 8th.

Just look at the Championship. Take a long, hard, mind-numbing look at it.

- Newcastle United
- West Bromwich Albion
- Middlesborough
- Leicester City
- Derby County
- Sheffield United
- Sheffield Wednesday

et al...

Look at the teams in the league below us.

- Leeds United
- Southampton
- Charlton Athletic
- Norwich City

et al...

Now, I know a lot of fans don't like Simon Davey, but just put your sensible hats on for one second, and really look at the big picture. We are doing well.

I really think people come on here just to piss and moan and whine, because they have nothing better to do. Why not channel all that negativity into positivity, and really get behind the lads this season. Like him or not, Simon Davey is here to stay. What would you be saying if we were top at Christmas? Hmmm?

Just, quit the moaning, and all the hostility. And get behind the lads.

 

Sorry but please stop posting lies Poet

"The fact of the matter is, is that Simon Davey, whether you like him or hate him, as done a good job for Barnsley football club"

That is most definetly NOT a fact. I would say that he has done a terrible job for barnsley football club. He has held us back.

 

PS, simon davey started coaching in the football league around THIRTEEN years ago

Hardly inexperienced

 

Lies? Go on the ST, in what way has Simon Davey held us back?

You're just laughable.

We are a small fish in a enormous sea.

I often think back to that balmy night in Macclesfield, when we got turfed out of the Worthington Cup 4-1 aet. It couldn't get any worse than that. It hasn't been that bad for years, and at the moment, I think we are doing remarkably well for the size of our club.

Get a grip on reality man.

 

Mate, you're clutching at straws.

Barnsley F.C is his FIRST managerial post in the Football League.

You can do all the training you want, but you can't see what the world is like, until you actually step foot into it and stare it in the face.

 

Simon Davey's under 40 isn't he poet. Not many managers are under that age so i would say hes inexperienced

 

RE: Lies? Go on the ST, in what way has Simon Davey held us back?

I remember that night it was terrible and the feeling i got walking out of the ground was awful. Trouble is that feeling has gone and we have moved on if we dont move on again we will be back to those grounds in the not so distant future. </p>

If we don't set our sights high enough then we will eventually slip back into league one. We have to want to move on not just survive and i don't see us moving on under Davey we are just a team who play 1 up front when at home in games we need to win. We are stagnating and standing still and teams who stand still get overtook.</p>

 

That's just what I mean.

How can I or you or anyone else, say 'If we don't set our sights higher...'

It's like saying, 'Oh, if Mr and Mrs Jones at number 42 don't get a washing line, they won't be able to dry their clothes'...

We, as mere supporters, don't know what is going in behind the walls of Oakwell. We don't know the financial situation, so how can we say, 'Oh, Davey should be signing him or him or him or him...'

The only thing we can do, as supporters, at Oakwell on a Saturday afternoon at 3pm is get behind the team that is on the field. Nothing else.

 

Yes lies. you stated it was a fact when it most certainly wasn't

And I feel he's held us back by keeping us in a relegation dogfight for three years while other promoted teams under other managers have improved.

 

So, it's not a fact that he's done a good job for Barnsley F.C?

So, he's done a bad job, right?

And, are you really going to compare us to Nottingham Forest, Swansea City and Bristol City et al. Compare us to Scnuthorpe, then you might have a better case. That's a leveller playing field.

 

Signing players etc I agree with you

Training probably wont help with that its actually doing it that counts but as for being a coach well the rules are the same, its the same amount of players so tactics are tactics whether thats in the premiership, championship or in the academy.

 

That kind of defeatest attitude means we'll always only settle for third rate results.
From the teams above the only ones I'd accept being beneath are the 3 that came down from the Prem last season. We should be able to at least match any of the others. The ones in the league below us are there because they deserve to be there.
There really is not much between the teams that finished 7th to 18th and if you can hit that top 10 at some point in the season, then you start believing that anything is possible, we've done it before after all.
I am prepared to give Davey another chance, but if by the start of December another relegation battle is looking ominous, then he'll have had his chance.
Good luck to all.

 

I didnt name any teams

I remember spending a season considerably below donny last year, Blackpool look better than us these days too and yes Swansea who we beat to get in this league are head and shoulders above us now after they improved and we did not.

And no it is not a fact that he has done a good job, I know its not a fact and you know its not a fct. It is an opinion

 

Ok, let's just imagine this...

Simon Davey gets sacked tomorrow. (You can cheer here if you wish).

Jose Mourinho inherits his squad, and has £1 million to spend on players.

If we're bottom by Christmas, does that mean that Mourinho is a bad manager?

Think back to last season. A good, long think.

I can think of at least 10 matches, where we should've either won, or drawn.

Swansea away - should've won.
Southampton - home and away, should've won.
Derby away - should've won.
Bristol City home - should've won.
Forest away - draw.
Forest home - should've won.
Blackpool away - should've drawn.

That's 20 points.

Who's to blame for not getting those points? Davey? Cryne?

Each one of those games had at least ONE GLORIOUS chance to win the game, and we didn't take it. Ian Hume missed two of those. JCR missed one if not more. Macken many.

If we'd have registered those 20 extra points, and finished in the top 10, I wonder how many people would be slating Davey this season. Anyways, I've gone on a tangent here...

 

Why cant we be compared to those teams then?

If you really think we are only the equal of Scnuthorpe ,then you need you head seing to.

 

Add Coventry into that as well!

 

That's totally fair.

The amount of chances that the PLAYERS missed last season, could've seen us finish in the top 10.

 

RE: That's just what I mean.

Yes obviously we don't know the financial constraints he is under and i suspect that PC isn't backing him to the hilt this time, maybe waiting till january to see what happens and how we are doing.</p>

BUT has he done enough since he took charge to demonstrate that he is the man to move this club onwards and upwards - IMHO no he hasn't. Tactically he fails to change games at key times, loyalty to some players who have had there chance and not taken it then just blatantly shutting out players who could have offered something at key points of our season. </p>

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I didn't say that Mark.

I said, that we are more comparable to Scnuthorpe United, than we are to Nottingham Forest or Bristol City. That's all.

I never said that we are ONLY comparable to Scnuthorpe.