All time idiotic posting !!

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  1. mrx

    mrx Banned Idiot

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    my daughter is a head mistress........she is appalled by the standards of today nt

    Fantastic xx

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    come on then ...why.... she is and she is unimpressed by the standards that the education authorities are setting her contemporaries to put out. And its obvious that the standards are indeed dropping when you walk up and down any high street in the land.........or was it just a good reason for you to have your normal pop at me .
     
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    What's the point?

    Far too much pressure on teachers to teach to tests these days - doesn't allow us to concentrate on the basics. </p>

    I think behaviour is slipping - whose fault is that? Not ours - there's a lot of great kids out there - never met Laura for instance but she seems a great little kid - but there's a lot who don't respect anything or anyone. Some parents have a lot to answer for!!! </p>
     
  5. Gue

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    RE: What's the point?

    I did not say that ALL kids out there are rubbish, far from it.There is a good amount of young people who are gold dust....unfortunately for every one that is then theres 4 or 5 trash, and I accept that its not entirely their fault either.Poor budgeting to the education system is allowing standards to drop terribly.Also there is a huge amount of blame to be laid at the doorsteps of could not care less parents, and again this comes down to te government.Handouts, free this free that makes it all too easy to get a belly full of arms and legs many timesover and draw upon a creaking welfare state. Not only are the older generation being let down but EVERY GENERATION IS.
     
  6. J B

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    Whose standards are dropping?

    Does walking down the high street show that standards in schools are dropping, or that standards of parents are?
    Or are parents even less accountable than the kids?

    Standards in schools, in general, are actually increasing. Value added scores show this. It's the standards at which kids enter schools, both primary and secondary that are lower, hence lower attainment at 16 when they leave.

    Whose fault is this?
     
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    I wasn't having a go at you

    Iagree with what you say - to be honest I hadn't read the post - couldn't understand why Mr X is having a go at you . Hence the question What's the point?!
     
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    I wasn't having a go at you

    Iagree with what you say - to be honest I hadn't read the post - couldn't understand why Mr X is having a go at you . Hence the question What's the point?!
     
  9. Gue

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    Mate if I came on and said "hello nice day evryone" MRX would have a go at me

    thats the kinda person he is.... I blame the parents personally
     
  10. Gue

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    RE: Whose standards are dropping?

    I have said above, the government are at fault in almost every aspect of education...... among just about every other aspect of life to be honest, as long as Blair was up Bushes ass he did not give a **** for UK.
     
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    I take your point but again it's somebody elses fault i.e. government. We as parents should be teaching our kids right from wrong, no one else.
    Yes things are given away too cheaply and this may encourage a lack of values, but that doesn't mean people have to take advantage of the system.
    Kids come into schools (some schools!) with a lack of pride, self esteem, self worth. This has come from home life, not the government and certainly not the schools.

    But the government are taking the easy route of placing responsibility with the schools for one simple reason, they can then be held accountable. Putting a parenting scheme in place would be the simple solution, but they can't hold them accountable. Human rights say they can do with their own as they please. And whilst ever this happens, parents get younger, grandparents get younger, values get cheaper, and so on.

    Ever decreasing circles, but as long as there is someone to blame, we don't have to find a solution!
     
  12. Gue

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    100% mate .....nail on head.

    agreed. Yet you do mention in there the ease of irresponsibility in not so many words.. IF we can over come that then and only then do we have chances of getting our society back toa more ordered respectful one.
     
  13. Gue

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    Agree with most of that...

    Two points, however...

    1) Although family life does have a huge influence on a child's attitude and behaviour don't discount society's role in all this - peer pressure, advertising, celebrity worship / obsession, deprived areas etcetera all have an impact on a child's development. These are the responsibility of the government and, in a lot of these issues, this current government has done little to address, and in some cases perpetuated these problems.

    2) Human rights has very little to do with it - some problems may arise due to parents and pupils exploiting such legislation but that's more of the symptom than the cause. Education was considered by previous generations (particularly those old enough to remember life prior to the second world war) a privilege and, consequently, it was held in some regard. These days the state school system is exploited and abused by those who think it is there solely for their purposes and not for the benefit of the population at large - pushy parents and constant pressure to succeed breeds pushy, jumped up kids. It's all part of the no such thing as society agenda - no appreciation for shared values or social institutions just me, me, me...
     

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