Alluding to things negative....

It really amazes me how people do this. Most people have no idea how things will pan out (in the long term), myself included. However, the number of people on here and, indeed on Radio Sheffield last night who seem to have already decided we are 'doomed Captain Mainwaring' is astonishing. No ball has been kicked for god's sake!!. We are however, to some on here, already relegated before we have even begun. I say again as I said in a previous post many days (not months or years) ago it is worth putting some money now on Barnsley finishing in the top half at least. Why not? The current crop of players are potentially as good if not better than last year's Championship novices given their pedigree/history.
If we lose against Bristol and/or Ipswich it will bring a torrent of abuse down on here no doubt but as far as I can see, in the long term we may just be stronger given the recruitment strategy. There is certainly no reason to panic or, as one person suggested on this board we are in a crisis. We aren't.
Shut up all you doom-mongerers and give the team (and management) some time.
P.S. Don't please retort back re: why do I assume we will be ok/ why will we be ok after a while/ why did we lose 4-0 to Rotherham/ why did we lose to Huddersfield? What about our striker shortage? What happens if Yiadom goes/ what happens if Macdonald gets injured/ what happens if we are in the bottom three by christmas.
All I can say is that we have a really good team coach, we have recruited some really promising guys and, given time, they have the potential to do really well.We will still further recruit I am sure.
In other words, all I am saying is for the next few weeks, regardless what happens on the pitch, trust the team and trust the manager.....and if you get good odds put a bet on Barnsley for the top half......
I await the vitriol and insult associated with this board. I have my opinion and I will be called a ******/scumball/idiot/**** for it. I have been called such in the past. Bring it on and then go away unless you have something pleasant and/or constructive to say.....If not then it's you that is the ******/scumball/idiot/****.
Best wishes to all
K

 

You won't be called a ****** based on your opinion - although you admit yourself it is based on bugger all.

What goes against you is that you have said don't come back to me with any reasonable questions or points for discussion because I refuse to listen.

So, we will do well because you want to believe it and opinions to the contrary are not acceptable.

 

Alan, (from Castleford?), the self confessed, " I am the best fan and go to every game and know more about Barnsley FC than any other fan' totally wrote us off last night on ' Praise and Grumble.'
He's a regular caller.
Not a ball has been kicked and yet with a few choice words or rather in his case, a long diatribe of tripe, he wrote us off whilst Jonathan Buchan, (you could fair see him nodding his head in agreement,) kept reiterating that he watched us play Rotherham and things didn't look good etc.
Nice one.
Even more reason to do what we did in the first half of last season!

I don't often agree with Alan, one thing you can bet on is that he's always one of the first callers to the show after a game, even if he's running to the station to catch the train and is all out of breath, he has to get his oar in and be the best, most knowledgeable fan that Barnsley FC has and he must, no matter what, force his opinions on the long suffering listeners.
Still, he's better than Mark the Pittsmoor Owl or that silly Derek from Donny who only rings when Donny are doing well or have won again and then he tells us it's like watching Barcelona and that we should all be beating a way down to Donny to witness the amazing football on offer, then there's Brian the Blade, patronisingly slagging every team off including his own, what he's been doing whilst the show has been off air I dread to think, it's a shame really.!
To cap it all there's the dreadful, breathless Trevor (?) who is a Blade and despite being breathless , never takes a breath and speaks in one long, rambling sentence that's totally incoherent , a bit like Carlos C who they have on straight after the game and who is allowed to spout utter, incomprehensible drivel for 20 minutes with no one any the wiser at the end of it. Then there's Doreen the Owl, who wears blinkers 24 hours a day 365 days a year. That must be really painful !

Oh yes, it's a fun show in every way.
They've got the format just right !

 

Maybe you should tell Hecky he seemed slightly less than positive himself going into the new season. We go with hope and dreams reality will probably bite us in the ass given our retention and recruitment issues. Either way it will be a ride.

 

You can get 4/1 at best for top half finish Mr Kamikaze. That represents a 20% chance. We are best priced 1/6 for a bottom half finish (85%). The 5% represents the bookies theoretical profit margin.

Sorry to disappoint you but I reserve the right to express my joy or despair as I see it, although I'll try not to direct my comments to you. It is a discussion forum after all, isn't it?

 

I once watched a team nailed to the bottom of league one. Then embarrassingly kicked out of the FA Cup against non league oposition.

They eventually got going.

However it was easier to get going in league 1 in some respects when it clicked. The championship won't give us that same chance. It's much more difficult.

All the moaners (suppose I have to include myself in that tbh) are so pissed off because we were on the verge of such a great championship team that the possibilities were scary. And brilliant to watch.

It was thrown away for money. And whilst everyone knows that we needed money all the negatives can see is that it might put us back from where we came with little chance of reaching the heights we have just got to.

I will of course give them that chance (new squad) as they deserve it. But we can't keep replacing an entire team every 12 months. The most successful teams historically only change 1 or 2 players each window.

It's going to be interesting and I hope it works out. Because the negativity won't remain on here if it doesn't. It will end up inside oakwell. And then what?

Some people have a fear of the unknown and it should be understandable

 

I don't mind Alan. Around 30 years ago before I could drive we used to catch the bus into Wakefield together for work and chat about the reds. He used to do a bit of scouting for the club back then and was very knowledgeable and a nice bloke.

Alan does say as he sees, but unlike some football fans (from all clubs), he is fair. One week he will ring up to express his concerns, but he's not slow to gush with pride and lavish praise on the lads when they've played well.

On the subject of "best fans" there is one bloke that rings up regularly and more or less begins even call with 'I go home and away".

 

A few weeks ago someone posted the stats for turnover over players versus league position and it debunked your assumption. It is possible to change half your team and be successful. It's also possible to change half your team and sink like a stone.

 

Yes. I saw that.

But I'm talking about the big clubs. Not just in the championship or league 1 etc. Worldwide.

Whilst I appreciate we are not a Barcelona or real Madrid. Had the circumstances be right we would be adding or replacing 1 or 2 to last season's squad and be one of the favourites.

Stats don't show everything. And most importantly a Middlesbrough or villa for example could blow millions on a new squad and be promoted.

We can't. So that stat didn't give any leverage or weighting to anyone's budgets. So for us to compete in the top half every year with our budget will be very much weighted against us if it's a new team each year.

 

P&G summed up perfectly.

 

I think we could swap 4/5/6 of the first XI each season and be ok. The key is the quality of the replacements. I think a number of our signings have been pretty astute. Lindsay, McGeehan and McCarthy I'm excited about. I think Isgrove will slot straight back in. I don't know enough about Potts, Mallan, Williams, Ugbo, Fryers, Pinnock to have an opinion.....yet.

 

I agree to some extent.

The recruitment whilst not covering everything has certainly given us hope to be optimistic.

I truly hope we got the ground running and some of the signings are exciting to say the least.

I'm just trying to see it from both sides. And the frustration on the negative angle of what may have been is lost. I understand that.

Suppose we have had years of crap to contend with many are fearful of struggle. This time we will be rich and struggle. And it's that I wonder if people think it's worth the money if we aren't going to use it.

It would be great if they surpassed everything and we remain cash rich and also successful with it. Which seems to have shorter odds of it happening.

We shall see.