Another controversial point...

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  1. ark

    ark104 New Member

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    Does Emile Heskey and Englands performance last night prove that a big, powerful centre forward doesn't need goals to add worth to the team - ie Kayode Odejayi?

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    What does big powerful centre forwards have to do with Kayode Odejayi??</p>

    Big piece of wood i could see your point but never ever call him a centre forward as they score goals!!</p>
     
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    So Heskey's not a centre forward then?
     
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    Good point, for the more fickle ones amongst us, Kayode is now brilliant based on England beating Croatia.

    I also think Frank Lampard is great, based on how Cole cut his head open.
     
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    I think they need some goals

    The two best out and out old fashioned style centre forwards I've seen play for Barnsley are Trevor Aylott and Paul Wilkinson and while neither were prolific they both contributed a reasonable amount of goals. Anyway, I haven't seen anything to suggest Kayode Odejayi can do the donkey work that those two lads used to do.

    Having said that, if we continue to play the long ball/direct style of football we played against Derby then I think Odejayi has to play as neither Macken nor Hume would get a kick.
     
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    To be honest I'd rather play it on the deck, I hate long ball football and would rather go down trying to pass it.

    Do you think Macken will score goals though? I like Macken but he's not been prolific since his early PNE days. So would playing KO give us a different dimension with his pace? Just a thought and not sure myself.

    Only think I'd say about Wilkinson is he played virtually every game when we went up so its hard to compare Odejayi's goalscoring record with him, plus we had super John banging them in as well so his lack of goals wasn't as important
     
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    I thought Kayode was an absolute menace when we brought him on against Derby, pulled their defence all over the shop which brought Hume into the game much more even though he had been pushed out wide. I'm not saying we should start him every game but as someone to bring on for the last half hour or so, I reckon he's a great player to have in the squad.
     
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    A Big Awkward Centre Forward

    Like Heskey, ties up a few defenders and midfielders and leaves other strikers to score goals. It was very much in evidence last night.

    We should be using Oddjob for this and it worked against Derby.
     
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    Wastyke New Member

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    Just what I thought, perhaps we have found him a niche after all :D :D :D
     
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    It won't be long until other teams realise the value of not bothering to chase him around anymore and start doubling up on our actual threats to their goal. It's not if anyone on our team knows where the ball is going once it's hit him on the head.
     
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    There's a danger here

    of you lot forgetting how ***** KO has been on numerous occasions because of one cameo appearance at home to a shocking team like Derby and the fact Heskey played for England last night! Ha ha give me a break.
     
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    You can't compare the two. One is a proven Premiership striker and the other is no better than League One.

    Heskey also has a first touch, which isn't a 5 yard pass.
     
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    Somebody said that in The Times report about Heskey

    Saying that his 5 goals in 45 games is a trerrible strike rate for a striker but his physical presence unsettles defenders
     
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    I think you wrong there he has worked on that side of his game against Birmingham he set up Howard with two great chances. Against Derby his headers were going where he intended them to go.
     
  15. Gue

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    RE: Somebody said that in The Times report about Heskey

    Macken is never going to be as prolific as he was at PNE as he has lost a yard of pace since then, however he is a ver intelligent player with the best first touch in the squad and IMO should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

    However KO is a brilliant option to bring on for the last 20. The last thing a defence wants to see with 20 mins to go is KO coming on. Even if he is useless (i dont think he is) he creates space for other players because of his sheer sie and pace. For example he caused the havoc from the corner that Foster scored from and set up Hume.

    Comparing him to heskey is a bit much, but he is a good option for us to have.
     
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    There isn't a comparison between the two I agree

    When someone above mentionedHeskey's physical presence being an advantage for England - that's what I feel KO brings to us. Throw him on and mess up defender's composure! </p>
     
  17. Gue

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    Yeah i agree they have similar impacts.
     

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