Another day, another child mauled to death by a dog

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  1. S.M.

    S.M. Well-Known Member

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    S.M., Nov 6, 2013
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    kanecat Banned Idiot

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    I won't demonise the dogs, the blame lies with the owners in the majority of cases
     
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    I fail to see how a piece of paper in a drawer will stop a dog attacking a child.


    However - one little girl goes missing (not even known to be dead) in Portugal and no body is willing to go for a pint 50 yards away from their sleeping kids anymore.

    10's of kids are killed and seriously harmed by these nutter dogs and nothing happens...

    We have dogs - never shown an inkling of doing anything other than drowning someone in slobber. But I'd still rather nip off for a pint and leave the kids in bed than leave my dogs alone with the kids.

    For the purpose of clarity - I don't nip off for a pint when the kids are in bed.
     
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    CricketJim Banned Idiot

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    Just ban dogs when you have kids
     
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    "The dog died shortly after the attack at 12:15 GMT, but the circumstances of its death are unknown."

    I think I could hazard a guess.
     
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    Jay Well-Known Member

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    *like*
     
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    Neighbours were quoted as saying the mother stabbed the dog to death trying to rescue the child (BBC News this morning).
     
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    Gordon Ottershaw Well-Known Member

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    Not a dangerous dog apparently. But I certainly wouldn't want my kids anywhere near a bulldog.

    The big problem with dangerous dogs are the type of people that tend to own them, and often the reasons that these people own them.
     
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    no need to have licencing at all, however

    make it totally compulsory for insurance ,chipping, and registration with the local vet or RSPCA, and charge a registration fee too. I have 3 dogs all are insured, chipped, registered with a vet and KC registered too. I pay around £93 per month for their insurances. The insurance includes a public liability in the policy, I know money means nothing in this tragic event. However it would have at least covered any expenses incurred by the family and compensation too, again I re-iterate that money is no substitute for a child's life or any life for that matter. I believe that compulsory insurance is the way and would put off many having a dog in the first place.
     
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    kanecat Banned Idiot

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    Re: no need to have licencing at all, however


    Some people don't even bother to insure cars so I can't see many insuring their pets.
     
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    Whilst this is a terrible tragedy you need to keep a sense of proportion - deaths by dog attack are actually incredibly rare- despite the impression you get from the press.

    I dont have current figures but in the 6 years between 2006 and 2012, 6 children and 2 adults were killed by dogs so around 1 per year - clearly its still too many but its not always practical to make things perfect

    there are 8.5 million pet dogs ( 1 in 4 houses have one) and in general they are a massive benefit and only in a few and well publicised cases to things go horribly wrong

    Compare to around 2000 people killed per year in traffic accidents

    There is a great danger of causing more harm than good with ill thought out catch all solutions

    How does your dog licence solve the problem - just out of interest - In this case the dog is believed to be a re-homed rescue dog so I expect the charity ran checks on the owners - the ones I am familiar with wont send dogs somewhere they dont think is suitable

    The only way to completely eliminate the risk of a dog attack is to put down all 8.5million dogs and ban people from keeping them as pets - considering the considerable benefits dogs bring to many people this is somewhat disproportionate
     
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    Re: no need to have licencing at all, however

    More than a bag of sand every year on dogs? Kinnel fire!
     
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    Re: no need to have licencing at all, however

    Out of interest what exactly do you get from registering with inbredsRus sorry I meant the kennel club? Apart from an inflated price on the sale of puppies and the knowledge on how to mutilate dogs by inter breeding
     
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    There's more than just the deaths though, as there will be countless more injuries, both reported and unreported.
     
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    Totally agree, Farnham. I would suggest more children die from from neglect from their parents than dogs.

    Why not introduce a parenting licence and vet people to see if they are fit and proper to spawn a brat. Would save the taxpayer a fortune!
     
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    It's a horrible tragedy, but it does make you question. Why take the risk of having a dog in the same space as your small children? As much as you might think, you can never really be sure. Feel for the family.
     
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    Agree with Farham on this one.

    I have to say there are some breeds that are just more dangerous than others.

    I have a Jack Russell & I have to keep her away from small kids, as if one grabs it's ear or something it might get a small nip.

    A german shepherd or a bull dog could have it's arm off.

    It's all about responsible dog owners & dog owners are like the rest of the general population, a bit hit & miss.

    If the dog license put more dog wardens in parks & public places it would help identify problem dogs though & maybe might save a life.
     
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    Re: no need to have licencing at all, however

    I agree. The Kennel Club is a disgraceful organisation that causes untold misery to millions of dogs born with genetic defects caused by in-breeding.
     
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    It was stabbed to death by child's mother who could not get its jaws off her
     
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    Correct, Dogs can become jealous and attack competitors in the house. They have to be trained, and kids have to be told not to antagonise them. You see some kids pulling dogs ears etc and they can get a nip if they go too far.
     
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