another plane crash.....

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  2. Mos

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    Also a helicopter crash in Afghanistan kills Spanish troops.
     
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    are they linked?

    Terrorists maybe?

    Call for Roundsman and his theories!!
     
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    Thanks guys

    The missus is really looking forward to the flight this weekend now!!
     
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    RE: are they linked?

    Not on this occasion - different continents, although if someone could construct a far-fetched conspiracy theory, it would possibly make the day go a little easier.
     
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    RE: Thanks guys

    Don't thank us, thank shoddy aircraft maintencance....probably.

    Oh well there lies the basis for another two episodes of Aircrash Investigates.
     
  7. Gue

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    This is the BBS we're talking about

    we could link someone treading on **** in Selby with the twin towers falling down on 9/11! That's how mad we are.
     
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    The butterfly effect

    The butterfly effect, first described by Lorenz at the December 1972 meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C., vividly illustrates the essential idea of chaos theory. In a 1963 paper for the New York Academy of Sciences, Lorenz had quoted an unnamed meteorologist's assertion that, if chaos theory were true, a single flap of a single seagull's wings would be enough to change the course of all future weather systems on the earth. By the time of the 1972 meeting, he had examined and refined that idea for his talk, "Predictability: Does the Flap of a Butterfly's Wings in Brazil set off a Tornado in Texas?" The example of such a small system as a butterfly being responsible for creating such a large and distant system as a tornado in Texas illustrates the impossibility of making predictions for complex systems; despite the fact that these are determined by underlying conditions, precisely what those conditions are can never be sufficiently articulated to allow long-range predictions.

    So if a butterfly beating its wings in Brazil can cause a Tornado in Texas imagine the effects on a plane in Venezuela when a helicopter goes down in Afghanistan.

    Will that do ya?
     
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    RE: This is the BBS we're talking about

    :D
     
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    Excellant

    :pff :pff
     
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    Not even the same type of plane
     
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    What, with one being a helicopter.

    You've studied aeronautics in some detail, haven't you?
     
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    RE: Thanks guys

    Easy - use the statistical probability of a plane crashing, point out that these are very rare events compared to the number of flights made, therefore 2 planes crashing in the space of a few days means the likelihood of another happening is extremely remote and that theres more chance of being involved in a crash on the way to the airport.
    Then again I tried that one once with ar lass and she then started worrying about the drive to the airport! (banghead)
     
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    I was meaning today's plane crash and the one in Greece
     
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    RE: Thanks guys

    dont forget the "comes in three" theory
    we're off to spain saturday, the missus already panicing :eek:
     
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    I hate to be pedantic but

    "therefore 2 planes crashing in the space of a few days means the likelihood of another happening is extremely remote "

    Probability theory states that the chance of another plane crash doesnt change because there already has been 1 or 2 (or 3 if you count the Air France one that skidded off the runway in Canada).

    The chance is still remote though, I think roughly similar to being struck by lightening next time you go out.
     
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    RE: The butterfly effect

    Thanks Michael Crichton!
     
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    I see what you mean

    If the chances are 1 in 1000 then it's still 1 in 1000 even if theres already been 2.

    But similarly, 2 crashes doesn't make it more likely that the plane she goes on will crash.

    The probability of 3 crashes in 4 days will be much greater than the probability of a crash on any given day though - I think!

    But my brain is starting to hurt now!

    I was just suggesting what he could say to her to placate her.
     
  19. Gue

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    Have we all forgot the one that landed at hanover the other day and went straight off the end of the runway and came to rest in a field?</p>



    These things seem to be a regular occurance these days.</p>



    Now where did I put that lifejacket?</p>
     

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    FAO tyke001

    Where did you get that image from?
     

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