Been living in my flat 3 years and the estate agents are asking us to pay for re-grouting the shower, though we never agreed to pay. I don't think it's our fault so don't see that we're responsible. Any thoughts?
We are renting one out and seeing as the shower is a thing you use everyday its a sticky one, we asked our tenent to do it but bought all the stuff for them to do it, but Im 99% sure you dont have to do it and its down to the landlord, its the things you would leave behind that they have to do
We actually offered to get it done ourselves As my housemate knows someone who could do it but the landlord wanted to instruct their own person...
I've been a landlord for about 4 years now and as blunket says, you ARE NOT usually responsible for everyday wear and tear unless it specifically stated in your contract which is not usual. If it's not in your contract they can only ask you to pay if there is evidence that you have been neglegent in some way i.e. letting mould build up, allowing kids to score the grout with pens or not advising the landlord of the problem for a substancial amount of time. If this is the case the responsibility is on them to prove you to be neglegent and not you to proove your innocence but it would help if you can. Check your contract first.
RE: We actually offered to get it done ourselves Sounds like a con to me mate. I've been a landlord for years and he's trying it on. Get it done yourself & then there's no problem for him to complain about. Out of interest, I also own a plastering/tiling company and the grout needed for a shower will set you back about £4 from a tile merchants, if that (probably a little more from DIY place though). Rake the joints out with a de-grouting tool (can get them at Topps Tiles/B&Q etc). This may take a little while but will allow you to get a good key with the new grout & is by far the most difficult (although not very difficult) part of the job. Grouting should take no more than 1/2 an hour. Most people could do the job quite easily tbh so the cost would be negligable.
Ballax, landlord should pay for every bit of maintenance mate Unless you have broke summet then i guess your liable. We've had plumming problems, heating problems, post key problems Landlord paid everytime Re-grouting a shower!!!! Thats general wear and tear, its like charging someone 5 years down line for a new oven coz its been knackered due to a dozen different people using it before yer
Thanks everyone Apparently 'it only gets like that if you don't clean it regularly'. What a load of ballax, the shower's perfectly clean and after all, gets rinsed twice a day when we have showers Not heard back whether the contractor's still coming in the morning after telling them we didn't agree and wouldn't be paying anyone...
RE: Sweeping generalisation Landlords are there to make money. Simple as. There is so much that is morally objectionable about the state of the British property market it's not worth getting into, it would just take too long. Anyone on here who is a landlord might want to argue the toss on that one, but let's face it if you own more than one house you're gonna be happy with the status quo aren't you? The fact that the property 'game' has been left to it's own devices for so long means that it has become a trough, and there are a lot - and I mean by personal experience - a great many disreputable characters out there who are in it for nothing more than greed. The economy would not be in this fine mess if it weren't for that.
Having rented a number of properties And knowing many people who also have, I've seen and heard a lot. I've had some great landlords who've been helpful, friendly and always there, and I know some that have been awful. Classic case of not tarring everyone with the same brush. To be fair, who doesn't want to make money? And for those that can't afford to buy a house, it's the only other option.
Of course landlords are there to make money In the same way as postmen are there to make money so are teachers etc etc I think regrouting is a bit much though - as pointed out higher up this tread its not a major job to do and comes under normal wear and tear. Unless your contract specifies that the house is returned in the condition it was let in. Common for commercial lets, less common for residential
The market for buy to let landlords was created by the government allowing the selling off of social housing and not replacing it. There are a lot of people who bought into the buy to let dream who bought flats etc 'off plan' they also believed the hype about the availiablity of unlimited finance and building an empire using the paper capital gains from spiraling (unsustainable) housing market. What happens ? flat prices collapse due to finacial institutions buying large scale and a lack of tenants... capital values collapse and negative equity. Oh and a few have given up their jobs to live off the rental income. TOUGH ifthey bought the dream the more fool them. I went to a conference about three years ago when they were selling this 'dream' and i was astonished how many wide eyed folks bought the dream through nothing but greed !</p> It is possible to build a rental business now and this does not mean being a Rackman type landlord, believe me two new boilers in the last six months aren't cheap. Small houses let for decent rents to people who would probably not get a mortgage to buy the house in the first place (folk need decent places to live). Most money is to be made from capital appreciation which means in the current market most landlords won't be making owt for a few years to come</p> </p> </p> </p> </p> </p> </p> </p> </p>