Any PC networking gurus out there?

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  1. Gue

    Guest Guest

    I'm trying to bring civilisation, or at least broadband, into the depths of deepest Burgundy and I've hit a bit of a snag. I've not done much with this wireless stuff before so I may be missing something obvious - has anybody else tried this or does anybody know what I need to do:

    I’ve got my wired LAN set up as a workgroup through a hub with static IP addresses in the range 192.168.0.1 through 255 and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. I’ve also got a wireless router / ADSL modem doing the DHCP thing on 192.168.1.1 allocating IP addresses in the range 192.168.1.2 through 255 and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.

    This all works fine in that all the machines can talk to each other and they can all access the internet individually, which is what I was after. The problem is, if I copy files between two machines while their wireless adapters are active then the traffic is routed via the wireless lan, not the hub, which is of course much slower. Is there any way I can stop the machines talking to each other wirelessly?

    I did think the subnet mask should be 255.255.0.0 – perhaps I’ll try this again but I don’t think it helped.

    To summarise, I want each machine to use the Ethernet connection for internal addresses and the wireless connection for external ones. Any ideas?
     
  2. Andy Mac

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    255.255.255.0 is correct, however I need to re-read it again for a 7th time before I answer the rest. I &quot;think&quot; I follow.</p>

    :D </p>
     
  3. Gue

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    My liberal do-gooder friends and I love to socialise nt

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  4. Gue

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    I added the "PC" deliberately but it just made it worse! nt
     
  5. Andy Mac

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    Mr Burgundy</p>

    Is it a Linksys by any chance ?</p>

    I've drawn my little piccies trying to see what you are trying to achieve ...... am I correct in thinking some of your PCs have both a wired and a wireless connection, ie a PC may have 192.168.0.x for wire and 192.168.1.x for wireless ?</p>

    In that case, why not change all your static IP devices to DHCP and let them get a lease from the router ? The router should be able to service requests from wired and wireless devices and at least everything is on the same logical segment. Then get them to browse the interweb through a single connection.</p>
     
  6. Gue

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    RE: I added the "PC" deliberately but it just made it worse! nt

    It was always going to happen!
     
  7. Gue

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    Netgear

    It's a Netgear hub.

    That's right, each machine has both a wired and a wireless connection, wired being static 192.168.0.x and wireless being 192.168.1.x via DHCP.

    The problem is that I didn't want to run a cable to the router, which is in a different room. I just want each machine to use it to access the internet wirelessly. I still want to use my existing wired LAN for communication between the machines in the workgroup. If I could get it to prioritise the wired adapter that should do it too.

    Alternatively I could just forget wireless and run a flipping ethernet cable to the router. I've at least got someone to drill a hole through the wall (which is four foot thick!!!).
     
  8. Andy Mac

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    RE: Netgear

    Right, so there is no routing going on at all via the two subnets. </p>

    I think then you need to be looking at the XP networking priorites - put 192.168.0.x to the top.</p>
     
  9. Andy Mac

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    Network settings

    Advanced / advanced settings / binding order .............................. make sure wired is top of the list.
     
  10. Gue

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    That's what I want to do - how do I do it? nt
     
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    Network connections / advanced / advanced settings / adaptors and binding ............ move wired to top of the list.</p>

    </p>

    Hope that helps.</p>
     
  12. Gue

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    From where?

    I've got Network Connections. Which network settings do I find it in? It's XP Pro SP2.
     
  13. Gue

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    Sorry, got it

    Trying it now.
     
  14. Gue

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    No luck, but talking to you has given me another idea

    I think the problem may be that once a client is connected to the wireless router it goes there for DNS which returns the IP of the target machine from the wireless subnet. So if both machines are connected wirelessly then it'll go on that subnet, as the other subnet doesn't include that IP.

    But if I add entries to LMHOSTS to each PC for the local, static IPs on the wired subnet then they shouldn't need to ask the router they should just route the traffic via the wired subnet.

    I did ping <machine name> and it pinged 192.168.0.2, i.e. wired. Then a bit later I did it again and it pinged 192.168.1.3, i.e. wireless. So I just need to stop it getting the wireless IP from DNS.

    I'll let you know.
     
  15. Gue

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    Success, I think!

    Actually hosts, not lmhosts, but that seems to have done it (as far as I can tell). I was thinking it was a routing problem but it seems it was a name resolution problem. I disabled NetBIOS as well as it's not needed now. Thanks a lot for your help, Mr Mac - I was going round in circles for a bit there.
     
  16. Isl

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    Sorry I'm late

    I reckon you've got yourself a classic name resolution problem there.

    Do some stuff to do with resolving names.
     
  17. Gue

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    Thanks IOWT

    If only you'd been here sooner.

    Hang on, what's this . . .

    Isle of Wight Tyke, Logon time 21/6/2007 10:21 AM ...

    You cheeky monkey.
     
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    coincidence that's all.

    Not one post on this thread is green on my PC, honest gov, I know loads about techy stuff.

    PS. Do you know how to get the colour green onto my laptop, I think I deleted when I was trying to chuck that paper aeroplane.
     
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    I have read all this thread

    and I still havent got a fecking clue what its about (seestars) (seestars) (seestars) (dunno) (dunno) (dunno) (dunno)
     

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