Anyone ever done this Green Deal thing?

Spending my Friday night trying to see if there's anything I can get for nowt for my new house. Ruled out insulation etc but I'm thinking of getting one of them ground sourced heat pump b.llocks - any one done it?

Apologies for being boring as f.ck.

 

don't bother - another Govt white elephant

 

Why?

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Deal
Have a read of that pal. I know it's Wikipedia but seems legit.

 

if you get working tax credits you can get a free boiler

 

very few have signed up, unworkable golden rule, created a cottage industry for Green Deal advisers who give 'sound' independent advice based on the products of their 'sponsors'.

the new 'train to gain' - Govt throw money at something that looks like it benefits normal folk but really it benefits those who identify the opportunity to make money at the expense of normal folk and creating a generation of folk that things should be free rather than an investment.

 

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As a DEA (domestic energy assessor) and soon to be GDA (Green Deal Advisor) and director of a company who is involved in the Green Deal and ECO I can offer a bit of advice to you.

Yesterday's autumn meeting in parliament focused some attention on the green deal and Eco, and from next year the green deal will become more easy to follow for the consumer. Up to press Green Deal as received way too much bad publicity and as played second fiddle to the ECO.

In relation to Dysons post it's good your showing interest in the Green Deal, it's going to take people to take the plunge and opt for such measures to be installed in there homes.

1 thing to make clear is that in most Green Deals will not be fully funded unless your house is of a very poor standard (insulation, windows, boiler etc)

On a more serious note unless we all take this serious we will fail to meet our Carbon saving obligation by the year 2020 and the fines we face are very scary.

 

Whats your company judith?

 

I'd love to say ST but sometimes it's best off to remain tight lipped. Sorry

 

I'll drop you a PM mate. Thanks.

 

As an advisor on this initiative, do you believe people will struggle to sell their house if they've taken out the green deal? As I understand it, you take out a loan for any of the work carried out, but it's not a personal loan, it's as though the property takes out a loan. So, should you move house, you no longer continue paying back the loan, the people who buy your house take on the repayments. Are people moving to a new house going to want that? Is it going to affect house sales?

We've got a glo-worm back boiler. It's at least 20 years old, probably much older. It's a fantastic piece of kit. It gets the water and the radiators red hot in no time. We've lived here about 10 years and not a single thing has ever gone wrong with it. We have it serviced periodically, but it doesn't need it. In all likelihood it will go on working, trouble free, for another 20 years, maybe much longer, without requiring any work on it at all. It was built properly. But everything I read on the subject advises me to rip it out because I'm wasting energy. I like the idea of green energy, but I've been severely burnt once and I'm really conflicted about whether changing something that works perfectly is the right thing to do.

Last year we were getting lots of calls from companies offering free cavity wall insulation. I didn't really want it. As far as I was concerned, the cavity between the walls is there for a reason, it stops damp from transferring from the outside wall to the inner wall. Why would I want something in there that would bridge the gap? However, an extremely charming bloke came round, explained why my worries were unfounded, told us how much warmer the house would be, how much we'd save on our bills and how it was environmentally sound. He convinced us to go with it. It's the worst decision I've ever made in my life.

To meet with regulations, before putting in the insulation they drilled a six inch diameter hole in our front room to the outside. Ventilation. We live in a 1930s red brick semi, the last thing we needed was more ventilation. There are draughts coming from all over. Anyone who has ever lived in a red brick council house will testify to that. The hole is in the front wall of the house, the house stands at the top of a hill with a view for miles and for 6 months of the year is battered by icy winds. Those winds now gust through this new ventilation straight in to our front room.

Before the cavity wall insulation we had a warm house. In winter we'd put the central heating on for two or three hours in the late afternoon and that would see us right all night. Now, we have a freezing cold house. If we turn the heating off on an evening we're cold within 20 minutes. We now have it on until we go to bed. Just had our annual energy review from e.on and we've used nearly twice as much gas in the last year than in any of the previous 9 years we've lived in the property. Our bills have gone through the roof.

To cap it off, the new vent blew to bits in the storm a couple of days ago and my front room was filled with cavity wall insulation. I have a 25 year guarantee, I'm hoping that extends to taking everything they did out and reverting back to what we had before.

I'm worried about this green deal. I'm worried that perfectly good heating systems are being ripped out and destroyed only to be replaced by less efficient systems that are far more prone to break down. I don't know anyone with a combi boiler who hasn't gone more than a couple of year without someone having to fix it and unless they've got insurance, being hit with a large bill.

I'd like to see the figures that show that manufacturing an entirely new system and installing that is more environmentally sound than running the old system.

New cars are more efficient than old ones, more environmentally sound to run, but it is far less environmentally friendly to buy an new car and scrap the old one rather than to keep running the old one. The environmental savings on running the new car rather than the old one is minimal, the environmental cost of building the new car in the first place is huge. I have a funny feeling it will be the same for heating systems.

We need more environmentally sound ways of heating our homes. But I don't see how new for old, when old is working perfectly fine, is a sensible way to do it.

Sorry, I got carried away.