Anyone Had A Parking Fine From Excel Parking??

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  1. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Dodgey ****ers.
     
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    **** and off.
     
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    Tha dun't work for em does tha?
     
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    God no.

    MOST parking "fines" are just speculative invoices with some big words at the bottom to scare you.
     
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    Correct. Put the **** in the bin.
     
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    Be careful, I received this from our car fleet manager

    I need to make you aware of the impact of this change in the law which came into force on 1st October 2012.

    This governs parking on private land and now gives land owners and parking operators greater rights and powers in all areas with the exception of clamping where now there is more protection for the public.

    For clarification in parking terms Private Land is

    Motorway Services
    Factory/Office Units
    Leisure Centres
    Fast Food Outlets
    Supermarkets
    Retail Parks
    Sports grounds & Stadiums

    The change means that the parking operators can now legally demand that vehicle owners, leasing providers, rental companies and fleet management providers become responsible for paying any penalty unless they supply the name and address of the driver of the vehicle which committed the contravention.

    Previously we have been able to protect our clients from this through a confidentiality clause in our contract, this change in the law stops us doing this.

    A consequence of this is going to be far more aggressive enforcement by these operators on the sites described above

    So we would offer the following guidance when parking

    Check for signs that relate to parking and read the terms

    If a charge is levied pay the charge and do not take a risk of a few minutes – the operators have the latest CCTV and number plate recognition system and will only allow 60 seconds grace.

    Should parking be free based around a purchase of some kind then make sure you keep receipts for approx 6 weeks – or can produce proof of a purchase. Operators will issue fines and make you prove a purchase being cancelling.

    If you receive a penalty it should be dealt with promptly as the charge will escalate and if the operator has to come back to the owner/leasing company they are bound to pay the penalty and then lose any right to appeal or representation

    Charges can reach £200-£300 within a matter of weeks and they can now issue civil proceedings more easily and cheaply than before and the expectation is that they will.

    This will not affect London Congestion Charges, Police fines or local government charges.
     
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    I got one about eighteen months ago (in Asda I think); like others have said I just binned it. I found quite a few bits of information on the internet about them and their actual rights so I was pretty confident that they had no case against me. Like owen points out the law may have changed so might be worth having a search before you file it under ****.
     
    MarioKempes, Oct 22, 2012
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    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Owen is correct the Law has changed
    see http://www.theaa.com/public_affairs/reports/parking-tickets-private-land.html

    So basically if Conan infringed clearly displayed conditions then he has to pay the fine or the problem wont go away

    If Excell are trying a fast one he should contest the charge with evidence - no idea how this will work now - personally I think this is a bad law for many reasons not least it gives a lot of civillians access to the details held by the dvla for any car registation plate and also moves the burden of proof to the car owner having to prove an offence was not committed rather than the prsumption of innocence until proved guilty system I thought we operated in this country.
     
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    Tory Government in making it easier for firms to cream money out of you shocker.
     
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    Thanks for the advice Owen.

    They've been very evasive providing evidence as they show the vehicle entering and leaving the car park with the times on there but they don't provide any evidence to show how long you've paid for. As far as I can see all their "evidence" shows is the fact that the vehicle was in the car park and to get anymore you have to appeal in writing. I informed them that they should be disclosing this information along with the photographs. The cheeky ****s.
     
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    By recorded mail ... I hope.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    It will definitely be by recorded delivery.
     
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    You may want to read some advice from http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60

    Especially this http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=46975

    Although the laws have changed, the landowner can only recover the actual loss suffered, not a figure plucked out the air by a parking company.

    Personally, unless you left your car for 2-3 days and only paid for 2-3 hours, then I'd ignore. I've done this in the past from a ticket when the missus parked at KFC too long and eventually the letters and threats stop coming. After about 6 months.

    Just noticed that Excel have suspended from accessing DVLA information (3 months), so they can no longer prove who is the registered keeper of the car.

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=74040
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2012
    W1zz, Oct 22, 2012
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