I read someone complaining that we will no longer be able to get more than £100,000 for a 17 year old. How many 17 year olds have we sold for more than £100,000 in our 125 year history? Only two young players I can think of that we've ever made a reasonable amount of money on while they were still very young were David Hirst and Scott Flinders, but both of those had signed pro contracts by the time we sold them, so that situation wouldn't change with these new rules. Since the academy has been an academy I think we've only actually got money for two academy products: Flinders and Fallon. Oh, and a small bit of compensation for Andy Rhodes' lad when he moved with his dad to Ipswich. Everyone else has been released, sooner or later. We've got next to **** all from 15+ years of academy status. Probably the best academy prospect we've ever had is Jacob Butterfield, but we picked him up after he was released from a bigger club's academy. There's nothing to stop us doing that in future. So how badly can these new rules affect us when we've got very little out of our academy under the present system? We actually did much better producing young uns before we had academy status. Carl Tiler and Steve Agnew went for big money. Mick McCarthy, Ian Banks and David Hirst all signed for bigger clubs and were proper stars at Barnsley. Phil Chambers, Joe Joyce, Andy Liddell and Adie Moses were solid first team performers. All players who I had a lot of time for when they played for us, none of whom have been surpassed by the academy products. PS Mr Hemsworth. Don't tell me about how great our academy is doing and start reeling off a list of names. If in five years we've sold these lads for mega bucks or they're first team regulars then you'd have a point, but at present they've proved nowt and they're only on the periphery of the first team. We've had hundreds of players like that in the past who have gone on to do nothing.
Re: Anyone want to give me a quick outline on how these new academy rules will affect Honestly Not a clue http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p...et-to-short-change-clubs-on-future-stars.html That might help you. Barry Fry went on about 5.5 million yesterday but i haven't a clue why the football league gets this 5 million or what it's for.
Re: Anyone want to give me a quick outline on how these new academy rules will affect Its basically an scheme that has been drawn up by the premier league to 'improve' football. They have set academies in four tiers of which they can be graded against. The top tier has to have a budget of two and a half million and eighteen full time staff. They are also wanting to change the rules regarding the amount of time a kid can be coached and the distances away from the parent club they can live. The rules also have set figures on how much a player should earn the parent club in compensation should he move to a bigger club. Its very much written to give the clubs that can afford it to have a stack them high policy to go through as many kids as possible to find the ones that will make them money and slot straight into the first team and disregard the rest.
We need to adopt the French approach........find a way around it or just ignore it .............its as simple as that
Re: Anyone want to give me a quick outline on how these new academy rules will affect So you would accept 100K for RNL ... given the promise he has shown? I think that would be a poor amount personally. Bear in mind, if a big club bought him then didn't want him aftewr a couple of years I'm sure they'd want more than 100K for him. Not sure Man U would accept 100K for Drinkwater (I know he's older), but you see what I mean. Why could they not have had a system where a youngster going to a big club would still be the property of a smaller club, and if it worked out for him then the smaller club get a decent price (bearing in mind what the bigger club had spent on his developement).
Re: Anyone want to give me a quick outline on how these new academy rules will affect RNL has signed a professional contract so as far as I'm aware that £100,000 rule doesn't come in to it. Clubs would have to make an offer just as they would with any other player. I'm pretty sure the compensation package only comes in to force for players who are yet to sign professional contracts.
Re: Anyone want to give me a quick outline on how these new academy rules will affect Compensation comes into it for players under 24 at the end of their contract. I think.
Re: Anyone want to give me a quick outline on how these new academy rules will affect The danger as I see it is that the new ruling allows the bigger clubs i.e. category 1/Premier League to 'hoover up' all of the most promising talent from a very young age, because the most they'll have to pay is 100K (or 6K if they get them before the age of 11). So, should Barnsley have a player who shows promise at that age, they won't stay anywhere near long enough to go through the Academy, let alone reach the first team. At the moment, the real top players at that age are getting sold for over a million - see the 14 y/o Chelsea bought last week. Instead, they'll get 20 players for the same price in the hope that just one of them proves worthwhile. We have a young lad Digby in the Academy at the moment who is very highly rated, and has made his debut at 16. Now, anyone can have him for well under 100K, if they think there's sufficient promise there to take him. I guess the converse is that we might receive more income from bigger clubs taking a punt on 2,3,4 of our kids, but as you say we don't have a great track record. What bemuses me is the assumption that this will result in more youngsters fulfilling their potential because they're at these bigger, better clubs from an early age. I just don't see it. In fact I wish there were a rule that prevented ANY kid from being attached to a club before the age of 15 - invest in the grass roots coaches and let them have fun with their mates till then.