Should they give in? I own an iPhone, a Macbook, a few iPads etc and I like them, great for what we need as a family. Having said that I err on the side of CCTV in streets and DNA tests at Birth, if you have nothing to hide and live a law abiding life (Thats my view I'm not saying it should be right). However, now I am torn, I don't think the US govt should be allowed to ask Apple to break a code, that doesn't apparently exist to provide a back door to the phone used in the recent gun attack in the US. I'll not call it terrorist because i don't think it is, but thats another argument. To me I'll back Apple on this one, but that goes against what I think about other similar issues. I think its because we CCTV and DNA is used to account guilt to a particular crime, or risk to us all, each and every one of us on an a daily basis, where with the change they can access to every point of our life (and my life is all on my apple devices) then theres nothing personal left anymore, absolutely everything (A lot is already available to the security forces anyway). Plus the added risk of the backdoor becoming available to anyone else that is inclined to fraudulently use the method. Interesting months ahead.
Wouldn't there be the exact same risk that our DNA test results could become available and abused? The public perception is that DNA tests are primarily used to catch criminals, but they are used far more often in the medical profession to understand what genetic illnesses people are prone to. I say prone because with many inherited conditions our genes tend only to give us an increased chance of developing these diseases, they are not a sure fire indicator. Employers may find that sort of information invaluable and only employ genetically healthy individuals and those with only a slightly increased risk of developing minor diseases. If your DNA tests show you have an elevated risk of developing cancer or you have a high risk of a heart attack or depression, many people might find themselves unemployable, with their future consigned to the scrap heap from the moment they're born and the test is taken. They may never even develop the disease for which they have a high risk, but will have been denied the same opportunities as the genetically healthy. That scares me more than someone nicking my bank account details. I know that's not what your post was about, but I find that more interesting.
I agree about the DNA testing. Moreover as we're being forced towards an insurance based health service by selective privatisation of the more 'profitable' parts of the NHS, people predisposed to certain conditions will find it impossible to (a) get health insurance or (b) pay for any treatment. I can't see any justification whatsoever for mandatory DNA sampling at birth.
I think it's a case of national security and therefore if the fbi need access to save further lives they should be given the powers to check the phone call . But only that call and any future probs they should have to go through a process before given access
I think people are too paranoid. CCTVs - yes. DNA testing - yes. Apple allowing them access - yes. I know there's loads of arguments about why it could be used in a bad way but no reason to think that it actually will be (beyond paranoia). I think that if it gets to the point where people are going to use it for those things then the world is already fecked anyway and there'll be much more to worry about than that and/or they'll just find ways around it anyway. Sometimes I think people have too high an opinion of themselves, I doubt anyone is going to care very much whether you sad something a bit risqué to someone in an email once or that you scratched your arse across from a CCTV camera on a street corner. I'm sure some people will be doing far more embarrassing stuff than you and there's such a massive amount of data available that that no-one would even remember about it 2 seconds later.
Agree. Granting access in one instance doesn't mean floodgates are opened for every Tom Dick or Harry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You've got no idea how these data sources can be and are systematically "data mined" and analysed to find indications of subversive behaviour The difficulty is that when the door is opened how much is enough? More and more will be eroded in the absurd sense that this loss of freedom with perversely guarantee it.
To be fair mate, Ive never thought of it like that and you may be right, but my initial thought is always of the safety of my family, especially my children. The biggest risk to them outside of the realms of illness and accidents is, and this is probably brought on my media attention and programmes like crime watch, the evil side of the world. We are socially groomed to think that the biggest risk to our lives and those of our families are 'others'. I just hate the look on peoples face who have lost a child or have had their lives ripped apart by the criminal side of our world, and I suppose as its an emotive subject and always big news that you are trained to behave in the way we do by the Govt and the media. So the flip of it is interesting and a view Ive not really had time to divulge, although on the face of it, it still seems a trade off I'm willing to pay. Back to Apple, I still don't want people snooping around our every day lives, I know in the main it won't happen but you never know, it seems preposterous to believe that this would be the end, when they have the key, they have it, bells and whistles. What about Extremely Northerns porn catalogue, it could be published for all to see.
Surely it can't be that hard to get into the phone, chances are it's a 4 digit passcode, that's only 10000 combinations - with the delays after so many incorrect tries, surely it would still only take a couple of weeks to try them all. Not buying Apple's stance on the issue, they are just using this as publicity - as in, your data is so safe with us!
If it has been built it can be hacked, the FBI know hackers just get some of them together, no prosecution, hack these phones. There really shouldnt even be a debate.
After 10 incorrect attempts his phone is set to delete all information stored on it (a standard feature on iPhones).
