Are some chuffs for real? (Non-football)

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  1. Red

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    LONDON (Reuters) - The government on Wednesday unveiled the criteria it will use to bar foreigners it believes inspire terrorism as part of a broad crackdown on Islamist preachers after last month's bombings in London.

    Home Secretary Charles Clarke published a list of "unacceptable behaviours" which would prompt deportation or a ban on entry.

    "The terrorist threat facing the UK remains real and significant and it is right that the government and law enforcement agencies do everything possible to counter it," said Clarke in a statement.

    "That includes tackling those who seek to foster hatred or promote terrorism, sending a strong message that they are not welcome in the UK."

    The list of activities, which covers any non-UK citizen in Britain or abroad, includes expressing views which foment, justify or glorify terrorist violence in pursuit of particular beliefs and seeking to provoke others to terrorist acts.

    The government said its plans covered views expressed through written, published or distributed material and websites as well as public speaking or preaching.

    Two waves of bomb attacks on London last month have sparked a string of new anti-terrorism measures and Prime Minister Tony Blair has said the "rules of the game are changing".

    The government is seeking further agreements like one it has struck with Jordan which allows British courts to deport Jordanians seen as a menace.

    London says the agreement protects deportees from ill treatment but human rights groups are unconvinced.

    "Today's announcement fails to answer the fundamental question: will the government's deportation plans result in suspects being sent to countries with a known record of torture?" said James Welch of civil rights group Liberty.

    So!

    DOES Mr Welch not feel that people who preach hate to the citizens of this country, should either;

    shut their gobs an total appreciation of the people who shelter them from overseas harm
    bugger off somewhere else, or
    deserve the consequences of deportation for being so stupid, vindictive, and unappreciative.

    Discuss.
     
  2. EastStander

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    Agreed

    People seeking asylum here because they could be persecuted in their homeland, then the simple fact is if you wish to stay here and not be sent back you have to do one little thing - which is not to promote violence or hatred against the country providing you with safety. Seems fair enough to me.....however, whilst I agree that they should do that I think we have one obstacle getting in the way, which is that the UK (along with many other countries) is signed up to a declaration of human rights and one of those is that you don't deport people to a country where they can face harm, so purely from a legal point of view there is an issue here in sending these people back to places where they may be persecuted - I'm not saying that they shouldn't forfeit that right by their actions, just that if such a case went to the High Court or European Court then the government may well lose.
     
  3. Gue

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    Agreed.

    Blunkett said to someone I introduced you to, "I'm sick of these people abusing our hospitality."

    Couldn't have put it better myself.
     

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