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Guest · Oct 20, 2008

Scored 1. Conceded 11. Achieved 1 point from 6 games.

What does he do to the side to get a record like that ?

Guest · Oct 20, 2008

all form...we are ***** mate

someone posted the stats from our last 30 league games yestrday... we have taken 16 points fom a possible 90.

JLWBigLil · Oct 20, 2008

Boo! You're not a real fan!!

Real fans never criticise the manager. Real fans ignore facts like those you've produced and back the manager no matter what. Just like they did with Glyn Hodges. And Paul Hart. And John McSeveney. And Steve Parkin. And Jim Iley. And Nigel Spackman. Oh yes.
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paul.d · Oct 20, 2008

it's like the old argument.............

about orchestras and conductors-if he dropped dead they could all carry on playing without him and you wouldn't really notice

does the manager really makethat much difference to how they perform on the park-apart from the motivational gobbledegook?? if you think not then changing won't do much good-the only real benefit -which we can't afford -is to change and allow the new man to bring in players he thinks can do the job-since the ones we have have proved? they can't do it consistently

they are all-I hope-professionals who have learnt their trade so you would hope they could perform averagely competently -not something we have seen too much of in the last year or so-the away defensive record does it for me-nearly 2 goals a game conceded-failed to score in 20 of the last 30 -a park side could do better

rant over-sorry but I'm getting thoroughly demoralised by what's happening

fitzytyke · Oct 20, 2008

RE: it's like the old argument.............

I said at the Donny game that I felt a bit sorry for Davey when they were calling for his head. Yes they are his players but they have to take some responsibility when they cross the white line. Of course I was verbally savaged for saying so.

Most worrying is the amount of individual mistakes that we make every week. He cant stop them. Thats up to the players to sort out.

SuperTyke · Oct 20, 2008

of course he can stop them

he can change his line up or he can substitute the players that aren't performing. For reason's known only to simon davey he doesnt do either of these things

paul.d · Oct 20, 2008

Phart was a phenomenal success comparatively.............

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Brush · Oct 20, 2008

I know the reason for the poor away form

Its the kit.

We are Barnsley, Barnsley play in RED not BLACK, remember, footballers have limited intelligence (sweeping generalisation there), and must find it hard to adapt to the away kit. Consequently they end up passing to the wrong colour shirt.

paul.d · Oct 20, 2008

but the opposition don't always play in red-try again! nt

fitzytyke · Oct 20, 2008

RE: of course he can stop them

I hear what your saying BUT he did what we all wanted and changed his back four to what we all believed was his best and we still shipped three goals. All three down to individual error.

Hes running short of things to try now.

JLWBigLil · Oct 20, 2008

That's true

They're not as attractive as Sylvia Saint, either!

Brush · Oct 20, 2008

I know that silly - it was only a joke, you take things too seriously nt

paul.d · Oct 20, 2008

I was only joking as well!

there are much more obvious things wrong-inabilty to keep clean sheets away from home is number 1

a clean sheet means at least a point a game

Heaney · Oct 20, 2008

? nt

SuperTyke · Oct 20, 2008

well you say he did what we wanted, he did what he was forced to do because of suspensions and the fact that he has built such a one dimensional squad that he had no alternatives. It was all well and good playing that defence but with a keeper not at full fitness behind them, a midfielder not at full fitness in front of them and leon alongside plus two attacking wingers it wasn't the strongest side to play away from home.

Brush · Oct 20, 2008

Oh you are a one! nt

paul.d · Oct 20, 2008

glad someone else thinks..........

Muller isn't yet match fit-rushed back too soon as a panic measure-as was Andersen

should have had 3-4 reserve games each

definitely won't be going anywhere in January-apart from Norwich on the 17th and Bristol on the 31st !!

paul.d · Oct 20, 2008

any relation to ............

fitzytyke · Oct 20, 2008

Disagree about keepers fitness but agree about DeSilva ( I presume thats who you refer to?) - would Colace have been any better having just come back from injury.

Dont get me wrong, I dont particularly like Davey, his lack of a plan B or his lame excuses but I think that his or our players should take some responsibility for the way things are at the moment.

wakeyred · Oct 20, 2008

yes but.....

Its surely the managers responsibility to organise HOW the team will play?
On Saturday, even at 2-0 up when we got the ball, palace had 4 midfielders in a line behind the ball giving us no space. Whenever they had the ball there were 11 Barnsley players wandering round looking for something to do. Thats down to Warnock V's Davey tactical wise, you can bet the Palarse players are under no illusions about what their job is in a TEAM. Its not just a collection of 11 men you send on to a field and hope for the best.
Do you think our players have the same roles explained to them, or that there is infact "a plan" for each game? If there is Davey is doing a good job of hiding it.

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