Ayone else bored to death of the doom and gloom merchants?

Fair enough if it's just me. I'll go away and find a more constructive place to discuss our club. Just seems like more rational posters, or even irrational positive posters, are just giving up posting. We haven't even kicked a ball yet. And if we do lose our first three league games then no, the season won't be over. And if Hill ever gets sacked the same people will be on the next manager's back after 5 games.

There was a lovely feeling of optimisim building earlier in the summer but a minoirty of prolifc posters haven't half killed that off.

Its alright Barnsley. Some of us still hope we will do well.

 

Lot more doom and gloom perhaps its the way the club/manager is/has been coming over to the fans in recent times.

Some past positive posters are coming across worried.

 

It's all about opinions.

 

Absolutely. Unfortunately about 90% of all posts are from a bout 10% of all posters which have absolutely nothing constructive to say over and over again.

Stronger together. Notice they all disappeared when we were playing well and winning.

I used to laugh at the Sheffield clubs. Thought they were right whineging *******s. praise or Sheffield we used to call it. Now all my Sheffield Wednesday mates laugh at us.

 

I'm bored of people who are living in a dream world and coming out with the same old tripe "we were better in defence before we lost Butterfield, Vaz Te and Drinkwater", "the players have improved from last season", "the manager has learnt from past mistakes" and so on and so on. There is no evidence for any of this and worryingly the squad hasn't been strengthened in the right areas.

You shouldn't worry about positive fans no longer posting on here - you should be worrying about the fact that long term season ticket holders like S.M and BFC Dave have not renewed and maybe asking yourself why this is. Actually, that advice would be more useful for Cryne and Rowing.

Negative fans = concerned fans.

 

Like the disappearing positive posters you mean.

 

I HOPE we do well...

...I just can't see it happening with the squad and resources we've got.

The last 3 months of last season were about as abject as I can ever remember; no fight, no spirit, no skill, no idea - we clung on to this league by the skin of our teeth. Nothing I've seen or heard since gives me optimism that anything will be different this season. If that makes me a moaning Minnie or negative Nelly then so be it; it is after all MY OPINION, whether or not you choose to agree with it is up to you.

 

Im surprised you have "Sheffield Wednesday mates"

as in my experience they (Wednesday fans) are all, without exception, utter hate-able c.u,nts.

Not sure if Im in the 10%, probably not as I post so infrequently these days, but you would probably categorize me as a doom and gloom merchant as I can only see a team/club suffering a slow and painful death/relegation. Patricks given up, Hills no miracle worker, we're in Premiership 2 and not stats about length of time in tier 2 hold any water now, football has moved on, but some fans obviously havent.

If you cant pay, you cant play.

 

My point is, I fully understand you are miserable about the team but why do you want to try and convince everyone else to be miserable with you? I can understand why someone would want to influence people to a positive outlook. The club is more likely to succeed and everyone is likely to be happier. I can't for the life of me understand why someone who is miserable about the club would try and convince others to be miserable too.

 

Re: Im surprised you have "Sheffield Wednesday mates"

There is indeed a small minority of about six or seven posters who don't have much positive to say, about any area of the club.

Unfortunately these are the ones that make their voices heard. Any poster who has anything positive to say immediately gets shot down and told to become 'a realist'.

 

I don't need any convincing...

...I can make up my own mind.

Ever heard the parable of the king's new clothes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPC8eGh5a8o

 

Re: Im surprised you have "Sheffield Wednesday mates"

I wouldn't class you in that.

To take your points though, firstly I suppose it depends what type of club you want. Personally i would rather follow a club which is self-sufficient than one that is reliant on a benefactor because in the end it will all go wrong. I'd rather have a BFC playing at any level than none at all becuase we've gone bankrupt. The key is to increase your revenue streams to increase the budget (key criticism of the club number one).

Secondly, Hill kept us up on the smallest budget in the Championship last season. We would have finished much higher if the board hadn't screwed him over in January (key criticism number two).

What really bugs me is people that criticise both the board and Hill. You can't blame the board for giving Hill the smallest budget in the division and then constantly criticise Hill for operating within that budget.

 

Re: Im surprised you have "Sheffield Wednesday mates"

Two sides mate, replicate that with the alternative view.

 

Re: I HOPE we do well...

Mellis, Etuhu, Cywka, Silva, Sonko (potentially)?

I agree the last 3 months were awful, but what about those signings haven't affected your opinion? I accept they might all be rubbish but I can't make that judgement now and I'm not sure how anyone can?

 

You're right, there's no evidence

But there's no evidence to the contrary either. We haven't played a game yet.

I'm concerned we won't do very well, but I can't see any point in going on about it because I could, as usual, be completely wrong. No one knows what impact the new signings will have on the squad. Best to wait and see. Banging on about how **** you think we'll be won't make any difference, if it turns out you're right you won't have achieved owt and if it turns out you're wrong you'll look a complete arse, so what's the point?

 

Re: You're right, there's no evidence

I hope I am wrong. If we finish on 55+ points and are never troubling the bottom three I will be very satisfied and see that as something to build on. If we finish 21st on 49 points with a shocking goal difference then I will be relieved but I would still it as largely negative because it will be a continuation of recent trends that we have no idea of changing.

I think there is evidence to suggest we will struggle because all of the awful players from last season are still at the club.

 

That works both ways! Us 'optimists' get it. You're not happy with the club and tell us time and time and time and time again with relentless posts. The same few posters are the ones constantly whining and moaning that we are no good and relegation certanties before a meaningful ball has been kicked this season. But how do you know?! Who really KNOWS what is going to happen this season? You can speculate but thats about it.

In reality we will probably struggle, but it's nice to have a bit of optimism to start off with.

 

Ive got sympathy for Hill

as on the surface he's generated funds from player sales and not been given the proceeds to find replacements, up to now. Patrick has clearly decided that the club needs to stand on its own two feet, but the cold hard facts are that our attendances cannot maintain Championship wages, so by offering League 1 wages we can only attract players that no other Championship club wants. I'd prefer a club that speculates a little in the transfer market rather than balancing the books, Im not talking about chasing the dream but if I had a choice between going for broke or slowly and painfully slipping down the leagues, I'd rather we give it a go. Or whats the point?

"Join our fight against relegation" - what fight? We're going into battle with our hands tied and our **** fully exposed. Stay of execution is best we can hope for. Its torture.

I havent renewed my ticket, I wouldve if the club had shown some ambition in the transfer market. As for this blog, you're right, its stale as hell. But the end to last season and the above reality is to blame.

 

Re: You're right, there's no evidence

I think we'll struggle, but I don't know we'll struggle. There's a big difference. Best bet is to wait and see because we can't do anything about it anyway. If it turns out we are **** and start to lose all our games then fill your boots, but I don't see any point in criticising now when we haven't kicked a ball in anger. Before a game is played the least we can do is stay hopeful even if we are concerned because if any of us could predict the results of football matches we'd all be a lot richer than we are.

 

Re: You're right, there's no evidence

I have to agree with you Ark,I think it's just gratuitous negativity from TheReev and Conan that get me down,
negative doesn't necessarily = concern,after a while it just seems to = a strange urge to be destructive about everything and everyone involved in the club,I don't know if its fact that people are driven away by it,but what gets me down
is the volume of it ....The Pub Team update s**te was mildly amusing for a very short while,but now its well passed its sell by date,every post by either gent doesn't need viewing....you know whats in it already.I'm not a happy clappy rose tinted type,and this is the first year since we came back up that I am worried,but it's constructive suggestions and ideas that need to be made,it's so easy to write the 'We're S**te...We're S**te...We're S**te....We're S**te'stuff,it's just a question of doing a copy and paste from one post to the next.....for christ sake give it a rest!!