Barnsley F.C a good Business Opportunity!

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  1. Gue

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    Take-overs in footie seem to be in' this season more than ever.

    While weve seen foreign investment targeting a variety of Premiership clubs for a slice of the revenue enjoyed from the TV and Europe crowds etc. Its interesting to look at the clubs targeted to predict which clubs will fair.

    Off the top of my head Chelsea obviously, Liverpool too look to be in for mega investment. Portsmouth are a growing club compared to 4 years ago. Villa have a new owner and so do massive club West Ham - in the bottom 3, Man City Rubbish! as are Newcastle,

    Is it me or do the clubs fair better when takeovers happen further down the leagues?
    How great have Reading been this season, Madejski bought Reading in the 2nd division I think? Has developed things off the park in a less pressurised atmosphere of leagues 1 and Championship and are now ready to compete in the Prem, Also wigan have done this with great success, Watch out for Leicester on the up next season.

    My point is the fella who bought west ham may have some tears to wipe away at the end of the season.

    Looking closer to home, You might think we are a pretty good investment opportunity.
    Fair enough Sheff Utd have got their act together and I can see them sustaining their future to compete for the next 5 to 10 years at a decent level. Wednesday 35million in debt...Dave Allen...blablabla...Leeds mmmm going down Nasty Ken Bates on the warpath no fans etc! Probably want his money back from the sale of the club (when hes dead or bored). Hull City, going down attendences down man, down, shipping industry very down. Anybody below us so what, I havent got time to go into them.

    Which leaves us. Might stay up, nice ground and facitities, and steadying the ship financially, with a fan base which we all know would near double with success. Wouldnt cost much to get in there, So a wake up call to anyone with serious money, take in the above, look around the region and then agree, were the best option, you can even bring your own manager!
     
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    Post Of The Day.......

    I would love someone to come in with millions and do something with us. Cheltenham Town have the fifth richest chairman in the leagues. Peterboro also have a moneyman who big a million for Mcleod and wants premiership football in six years. So i don't see why we wouldn't be able to attract a moneyman.
     
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    Sir Jack Hayward reckoned it cost him £78m to get Wolves

    to the Premiership.

    Mind you, he also paid, unknowingly, for Jeremy Thorpe to hire a hitman to kill his homosexual lover! So I suggest targetting someone very rich and easily fooled as the best bet to take over the club.
     
  4. Young Nudger

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    Pat Cryne would like to off load Barnsley FC....................but

    And its a big but
    He can't find anybody to take the job on
    Like he says - who wants to invest into something that loses money

    We don't know this, but if I were Pat Cryne my main mission at Barnsley FC would be to find someone to buy him out
    Pat Cryne saved the club and we will be forever gratefull but I don't think PC has the money to prime the pump (so to speak) to move us up into the Premeirship

    We need someone in the Paul Sykes league to do this
    I have heard that Paul Sykes would like to put something back into Barnsley
    I don't think he could find a better project than Barnsley Football Club
    Success in the football club will bring investment into the town
     
  5. BRF

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    There is hyper inflation involved in the valuation of clubs who aspire to be premier league.

    It used to be that £10 million quid would easily finance your way into the top flight. Look at what Blackburn paid for the premier league title - they bought a bargain - nowadays what would it cost? Five times what they paid? Ten?</p>

    All these teams with their so called money men are fighting for a piece of an ever decreasing pie. At one time you could guarantee yourself a place in top flight on money alone, now it is not enough. Most clubs in the top half of the Championship have substantial financial resouces. Money is not everything - it simply creates inflation in the transfer market where reasonable players become millionaires with multi-million pound price tags. It has always been the case that the top five (big five) clubs are substantially richer than everyone else and can pick and choose the players they buy and sell. The rest of us are traditionally on a food chain which means that we are sellers more than buyers. To really stake a claim to the top flight you need a man who has hundreds of millions, is genuinely dedicated to the club, and has the shrewd ability to employ people to get on with the job (who are capable of doing so). All these investment groups looking to profit from football are going to struggle, because they can't all be winners. Unlike other industries where the profits can be shared equally in times of heavy competition - in football there are winners and losers - and the fine line between making the jump to the premier league or european football (even just one point, or losing a cup tie on penalties) can mean that the investment company/investor gets stung. Eventually this fashion for 'doing up' clubs like Portsmouth and West Ham is going to go down the toilet and the shame of it is that it has the potential to take clubs of great heretage with it.</p>

    When I look at Abramovic I feel somewhat scared for Chelsea and how dependent they are. If he walked away, Chelsea would implode. They are simply not in a position of being able to sustain themselves without him. And they're winning things. For the rest of us, flirting with investment companies and money men is an even more dangerous game that may one day come to a sticky end.  </p>
     
  6. Gue

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    RE: Pat Cryne would like to off load Barnsley FC....................but

    Where does it say that in writing please, cos I aint seen it
     
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    Sykes would be more likely to go to Leeds. He's a fan apparently and you'd never get them cheaper.

    They also have a greater dormant fan base - whether we like it or not. You can put Leeds shirts into a JJB and they will sell up and down the country when they are doing well. I just can't foresee that for us - much a shame though it is.</p>

    The thing is that, economically speaking, the Premier League is still in its infancy. It is yet to come to financial maturity - all we have seen so far is growth. Eventually, as with all industries, there will have to be a down turn and a bust. The financial speculation will have to end at some point. You wouldn't want to get caught in the back-draft. </p>
     
  8. Young Nudger

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    RE: Pat Cryne would like to off load Barnsley FC..............not in writing

    I was in a room when he said this
    Why ??? !!!
    His reason was this and its very very valid...........what happens when he dies ???
    He has a son who may not want to continue at Barnsley FC
    Where does that leave Barnsley FC ???
    So I asked him out right whether he would sell the club and he says he would but he doesen't think there would be anybody to buy it - because who want to buy something that is losing money ???
     
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    Barnsley football Club is an unknown quantity

    No one knows what would happen if we had a sustained period of success
    Because we have never had it
    Leeds, Wendy and Blunts have had that success, which of course has been a detriment to Barnsley, and these clubs have fan bases that reflect PAST success and not what is happening to those clubs at the moment
     
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    RE: Barnsley football Club is an unknown quantity

    Blunts excepted, what with them being in the Premier League.
     
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    "We are a pretty good investment opportunity"

    I would rather have what we have, men in charge who put their money into the club because they are fans rather than someone who puts in money and will want it back as soon as things go wrong.
     
  12. Young Nudger

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    Blunts included

    Blunts fan base, I would say comes largely from past successes
    We know quite a few will have jumped on the band wagon (some from the Barnsley district) but they had a decent fan base before and this is because they consider themselves a Premeirship club because they have been there and stayed there for years

    Barnsley haven't..........we need to
     
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    RE: Blunts included

    We won't though, can't see it happening.

    The top division is vastly different to what it was in the 20 or 30 years ago.
     
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    I actually agree

    we have never had a period of sustained success but what people are asking for is a benefactor, someone who is going to come in and spend there own money and not be concerned about the losses, i'm sure if PC could do this he would but he is not on the same scale as Mr Roman where he can afford to spend millions becasue his other interests significantly reduce what he is spending i.e he still earns more from other businesses.

    In theory it is a great idea and one which everyclub would want but realistically football is a huge gamble and when you get it wrong it has serious consquences as ourselves leeds and wendy know!!
     
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    Barnsley...........int really a wash with rich folk is it ???

    Agree, that Its better that the directors are fans
    Problem is - we ain't got any rich Barnsley fans out there, cos its a poor area
    I know the guy from Strata who has just jumped onto the Times rich list at £90 million - but hes from Donny :( :( :(
    We could do with a few like him on the board of directors (except he needs to be a TARN fan) but they are just not there in Barnsley
    Donny has a few like these ie. Polypipe, Furniture etc etc
    Shep needs to be knocking on a few doors - he lives in Donny dunt he ???
     
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    Why Does A Moneyman Have To Be From Even This Country ?

    I doubt Chelsea fans for example are too bothered where their chairman is from.
     
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    They will be if things go wrong.

    Money doesn't always guarantee success.
     
  18. Gue

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    im sure chelsea feel that way too...
     
  19. Gue

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    the future of BFC

    is therefore as a stable club that does not require investment and can be safely put back into the hands of private shareholders - as it was before we went into admin.

    It was the stewardship that went a bit pear-shaped, not the ownership structure. I for one will buy shares in BFC as soon as the become available to the public.
     
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    Has there been any inclination that this will happen in the foreseeable future?

    the club selling shares

    or are you just hoping?
     

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