Barnsley FC have one basic problem

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    The directors haven't enough money to keep us in the Championship
    We will be forever gratefull to Pat Cryne for saving the club
    And it would be appropriate if a statue was errected outside of the ground of this guy
    But
    The directors haven't the money to keep us in the Championship
    You can see this with the decisions that have been made

    Ritchie saying no money to spend
    Appointing the cheap option manager
    No experienced players coming in only young kids (excluding Wallwork)
    Cheap option foreign strikers brought in, obviously because British strikers are over priced

    We cannot 'DO' the Championship on the cheap
    We need more directors with money
    PC knows this, but until we bring other directors on board, we aint going nowhere only down
     
  2. Gue

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    Simon Davey nt
     
  3. Gue

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    I doubt it's a case of attracting people with brass...

    Either they're there and willing to invest or they're not - it looks as though they're not, simple as.

    I, for one, applaud Shepherd and Cryne for keeping the financial aspect of the club balanced and not being tempted to blow money we haven't got.

    My problem is with them being unable to just admit that instead of blaming scapegoats and making ill-conceived, short sighted decisions 'cos they can't take the heat...
     
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    What have Colchester done then?

    Cos I can't see any money being blown there and by winning yesterday, the virtually guaranteed themselves championship football next season.

    There's one problem at Oakwell. But I won't generate Mr Wake and Mr Smith any more money by naming it.
     
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    Colchester...two proven strikers
     
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    And a solid WELL organised team with a manager getting the best from his players. Blatantly not happening at Oakwell....
     
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    Too many egos at BFC
     
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    too true. but at what level?

    on the pitch?
    management team?
    behind the scenes, office staff?
    board room?
     
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    Colchester, none proven manager at any level, though the guy has been given a chance and has done well with it. Both thier strikers have been linked with us over the past couple of years although after Curetons spell with QPR would we have wanted him, an excellent decision by whoever made it at Colchester.
    Our main problem, in my eyes judging by who has been signed long term, has been we are not an established Championship club and therefore certain players would therfore sign to a "safe" none relegation battle team rather than an unproven just got out of league 1 last game of the season to make playoffs expected to struggle against relegation club. If people had been offered Championship football at the beginning of last season they would have jumped at the chance, yes things aren't looking good at the moment, yes I don't get to many games home or away so my judgement may be clouded from not spending too much money to watch the reds, but defeats still hurt. I would hope that we can stay up, although I'm not overly confident, but we are still in potentially a damned site better position that we were this time last year.
     
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    RE: too true. but at what level?

    Id say all of the above.
     
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    Not a pessimist just pissed off after yesterday and a bit drunk from today
     
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    One observation re Colchester......................

    They won automatic promotion.</p>

    They didn't scrape in on a penalty lottery! They were 7 points better than we were.</p>

    (casualty) </p>
     
  13. La Dent de Crolles

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    Now they are 20 points better than us.

    Irrelevant!
     
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    Fair point. You can't argue with their points total from last year, maybe not the most exciting matches, a lot of one nils and two- ones but it got them the points required, no teams last year from what i can recall gave them a hammering.
     
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    How do you explain Southends piss poor showing this season then? nt
     
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    RE: How do you explain Southends piss poor showing this season then? nt

    they have spent less than us on transfers.
     
  17. Gue

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    Quite agree Young Nudger it just shows what a fantastic achievement keeping a club the size of barnsley in the 2nd tier of english football for 20 years is, plus a season at the top table.

    Neverthless you can't keep sacking managers.

    Why wouldn't you show more patience in Ritchie, he did get you up ?
     
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    and they had 4 weeks more to prepare for this division. nt
     
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    Going to get shot down for saying this... but here goes

    The difference between Colchester and Barnsley- expectation. I would guess that most people on here (myself included) expected Colchester to be the whipping boys of this division at the start of the season. I would hazard a guess that quite a few U's fans thought the same.

    We had the crazt situation after winning two away games at the start with fans saying we were certs for the play offs. When reality started to hit and it became apparent that we were going to struggle this season I can remember the shouts straight away from some on here- and you chiefly among them YN- and what happens we sack another manager.

    This isn't a debate about who is the right manager (thats for another time), its about perspective. We were always going to struggle this season and the constant moaning and backbiting at the team isn't really going to lift them and turn Oakwell into a fortress. It's about time you actually got behind the club YN- because all you've done since September is depress the arse off most off here more than you can imagine.

    We are in a struggle for survival and we aren't going to survive in this division with the constant carping, booing, name calling and negativity. The treatment Mattis got yesterday was a disgrace... Why would you want to play in front of the shits that we have for fans if thats how they respond.

    Forget whats happening in the boardroom unless you have a few million to ease the pain and get behind the team- We have a better squad than some in this division and if we can just accept that survival is the goal and cheer the lads on.... perhaps that might just make the difference.
     
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    A lot of truth there

    Personally, I'd look as far back as 10 years ago to see the root of our problems, promotion to the Premiership. That really has turned the managers job at our club into a poisoned chalice.

    Before then, for the most part, we accepted that we were a mid-table club in the 2nd tier of English football. We accepted that every now & then we would have an eventually unsuccessful flirtation with the play offs & an equal number of successful battles against relegation. Throw into the mix the odd good cup run & most were satisfied.

    After relegation, I think most people, & I include myself in this group, thought that we'd turn into a yo-yo club. I think the possibility of that ever happening has long gone, unless we are to yo-yo between the 2nd & 3rd tiers. However, I think that the expectation still remains.

    I think it's significant that not 1 manager has been in charge of the club for more than 100 games since Danny upped sticks & left. Stability is needed but to get that, we need patience & that is a commodity in short supply throughout football.

    Having said that, I didn't think at the time, & still don't think, that Davey was/is the right man for the job. I hope to God he proves me wrong though.
     

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