Barnsley's Lemming Supporters.......and the Keith Hill season so far

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  1. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    Signed by Keith Hill

    Alnwick............. Average
    Golbourne........ Excellent
    Wiseman...........Good...........but confidence undermined by own supporters
    McNulty........... Good, but has been out injured and lost confidence since he has come back
    Cranie........... Good midfielder but not a defender
    Kennedy ........Good in the matches he has played
    Dawson.......... Excellent
    Done .............Average
    Perkins........ Excellent
    Cywka..........Average
    Mellis....... Good
    Davies..........Excellent
    Dagnall..............Hard worker but average at this level
    Harewood......... Hard worker but average at this level

    Players that have been signed but we haven't seen enough of them, so the jury is still out, are:
    Silva
    Mido
    Etuhu
    Rooney

    At a presentation, Simon Davey said that if 50% of the players signed are seen to work out then a manager will consider this a success..........well Hill has done better than 50%.

    On top of this other younger players are starting to come through that look promising:
    Noble-Lazarus
    Rose
    Stones
    Digby
    Clark

    There seems to have been a good pre-season but then the team was hit by a shed load of injuries with up to ELEVEN players out injured.
    Some of these players are now back but they still are not up to speed - Davies, McNulty, O'Brien.
    On top of this our most influential midfielder Perkins has been out injured a couple of times.

    Keith Hill has then gone back and recruited four more who ALL look good signings
    Sinclair
    Tudgay
    Greening
    Buzsaky

    Its been a very roller coaster season.........the only major failing has been the ATTEMPT AND FAILURE TO SIGN A TALL, STRONG, COMMANDING CENTRE BACK
    All in all we are not far off being a good Championship side........but we are desperate for this centre back.

    The Barnsley Lemmings need to take a long hard look at the long term building of a team at Barnsley.
    It seems that if enough people on here says that Keith Hill is rubbish then others just implode and accept that this must be true.
    And then people wonder why people like Murdoch hang on desperately to the Sun Newspaper.
     
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  2. Mike Lowry

    Mike Lowry Well-Known Member

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    If they're all so good, how come we haven't won in 9 games?
     
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    Alnwick............. Piss Poor
    Golbourne........ Average
    Wiseman...........Terrible
    McNulty........... Sunday league level
    Cranie........... Average
    Kennedy ........Not even rated high enough to get in the team when we're leaking goals like the titanic.
    Dawson.......... Average
    Done .............Poor
    Perkins........ Excellent on his own, doesnt really help the team perform better though
    Cywka..........Average
    Mellis....... Average
    Davies..........He scores quite a lot of goals compared to the others
    Dagnall..............Hard worker but average at this level
    Harewood......... Lazy and terrible at this level.
     
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    In fact if Keith Hill is such a good manager and the players are so good why does a form table of the English premiership, championship, league one, league two, blue square, scottish premiership, scottish division 1, scottish division 2, scottish division 3, spanish primera liga, french division 1, german bundesliga, italian serie A, south african premiership and south african first division (yes readers, that's 15 leagues across 8 countries) look like this?

    http://www.viewdocsonline.com/document/wgip80
     
  5. barnsley66

    barnsley66 Well-Known Member

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    So how long do we give him?

    Things do not seem to be improving at all, so when is enough, enough?

    When does he swallow his pride, and get Hassell back into the side? At least Bobby will fight for the cause.

    As you say, we've needed a centre-back all season, but we still don't have one, despite four loan signings. Our defence is giving away silly goals and we are doing nothing to rectify the problem.

    I want BFC to be successful and by success I am happy for it to be championship survival. But at this moment in time, I can see nothing but another relegation scrap, and I wonder if this team has the heart to win it.
     
  6. Young Nudger

    Young Nudger Well-Known Member

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    All good teams have a STRONG SPINE

    Goalkeeper.....................Steele
    Centre back....................????????
    Central Midfielder.............Perkins (and now Greening)
    Centre forward................Davies

    The rest of the team is built around the spine
    A large part of the Barnsley spine is missing............players like Wiseman, McNulty, Cranie and even Stones would improve if we had a player such as a Darren Moore type stuck in the middle of defence.
    There is NO ONE in the current team that is marshalling the defence and encouraging the rest of the team
     
  7. Sup

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    You do realise that Keith Hill is the person who chose not to sign a centre half right?

    In fact you do realise that Keith Hill has signed plenty of centre halfs who he now refuses to play at centre half don't you?
     
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    SirPsychoSexy Banned Idiot

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    Apart from you saying we need a new centre back, you are talking ***** Young Nudger.
     
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    He usually does.
     
  10. Barnsley Chopin

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    Fixed that post for you Nudger.

    Alnwick............. piss poor
    Golbourne........ average at best, no right foot at all.
    Wiseman........... he's an ok attacking fullback, poor at marking so lets say poor
    McNulty........... Poor, always lets the bounce past him instead of heading it. Liability.
    Cranie........... Good midfielder but not a defender - I'll let you have that one.
    Kennedy ........average, cant get in this ***** defence, what does that tell you?
    Dawson.......... Average, puts in a shift but lacks real quality.
    Done .............Poor
    Perkins........ Good player despite his limitations
    Cywka..........Hot n cold, Average
    Mellis....... Good - Mr 10%, tries 10% of the time, would be decent laiker if he could find a heart.
    Davies..........Excellent - Deserves a medal for scoring as many as he has, on the shoddy service he gets
    Dagnall..............Hard worker but poor at this level
    Harewood......... Non worker, past it at this level

    Players that have been signed but we haven't seen enough of them, so the jury is still out, are:
    Silva - Injured and hardly played - i'd rather have RNL.
    Mido - will never be fit EVER
    Etuhu - Never be a football player, Oddjob had more skill.
    Rooney - Pointless signing

    On top of this other younger players are starting to come through that look promising:
    Noble-Lazarus - Should be playing every week
    Rose - Not strong enough
    Stones - Promising
    Digby - Perennially injured
    Clark - not strong enough

    Keith Hill has then gone back and recruited four more who ALL look good signings
    Sinclair - Jury is out
    Tudgay - He's a forward Keith, leave him up front instead of defending corners
    Greening - Ok but not a long term solution
    Buzsaky - quality but commitment??

    Its been a very down hill season.........the numerous failings have been the piss poor defending, piss poor marking, pissing about passing it round the back, not playing people in the correct positions, no pace playing the ball FORWARD, no plan B, no decent free kicks.

    All in all we are far off being a good Championship side........we are desperate for a win.

    Keith Hill needs to take a long hard look at the long term building of a team at Barnsley.
     
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    Nudge - I have to admire your positivity and optimism BUT you are in a minority of about one.

    If I could see any glimpse of hope in the set up we have, I would say let's keep together and continue......fact is I don't and it is getting more embarrasing by the game.

    It's a results-based business and Keith is just not getting the results.........so let's get somebody who can restore some pride and shore up the defence.

    GERRY TAGGART
     
  12. Mike Lowry

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    So what you're saying is, that if we had a different team then we'd bea good team?
     
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    The "jury's out" on Mido and Etuhu? Are you for real?

    Mido is fat as **** and Etuhu has had plenty of opportunity but he's just ****.
     
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    So what you're saying Nudge is that you want people to think for themselves and agree with you.

    Priceless.
     
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    trouble is the rollercoaster is going down the hills fast and cant seem to climb them
     
  16. Young Nudger

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    I have to admire your positivity and optimism.............


    ...............just the gate keeper at the top of the cliff............trying to close the gate before more lemmings throw themselves off.

    I can see what Keith Hill and Flicker are trying to do.......but its going to take a bit longer to do it. Probably be next season when things have turned around. I just hope the club can keep in the Championship by then.
    Without a shed load of money to throw at the team, it takes time, this is what happens
     
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    Kennedy (at left back) ???????????????
    Collins ?????????????
    Edwards ????????????
    Silva ?????????????
    rooney ????????????
     
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    I truly believe that this current crop of players should be sat quite comfortable in mid table unfortunately I think it's Hill that's not quite up to managing in the championship,
     
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    Agree with all that Nudger - spot on.
     
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    Now there's a shock. And YN is talking about lemmings.
     

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