BBC announced plans to discriminate against white able bodied males

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  1. Sup

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    And they act like it is good news? Joke of an organisation
     
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    I can't find what it is you are referring to but it's not like white able bodied men have had a tough time of it in pretty much the history of ever.
     
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    Yes the quicker the Tories get shut and/or get their own people in the better. No need to buy the sun and Mail then.
     
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    Think he's referring to this. Sounds a bit like diversity for diversity's sake, but it's not worth getting one's knickers in a twist.
     
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    don't know what you're referring to, but maybe they're trying to redress the balance of their institutional discrimination over the last 90 years?
     
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    This quote made me laugh 'At present, 48.4% of BBC employees are women, with women in 41.3% of leadership roles.'
    So why bother?
     
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    Also, if 50% of the workforce are going to be men, 85% are going to be white and 92% are going to be able bodied then if doesn't sound like white able bodied men are going to be in that bad a position.
     
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    It's not discrimination. You can't discriminate against a perceived elite majority. What you can do, is to choose to establish a more diverse personnel. Which will inevitably change the balance of groups within the whole. It's called inclusion, not discrimination.

    it sounds like it is a plan to overcome discrimination and token representation in the work force. And why would that not be good news for a public organisation? Many people have lost faith in the BBC, is for the reason that this appears to be attempting to rectify. Whether it will succeed time will tell, jobs for the boys, old school ties, the right profile etc...

    I can see able-bodied white supremacists being pissed off and their able-bodied white manhoods threatened, when they read that or look at the pictures more like. And of course, their Tory masters stand to lose their stranglehold on one part of the media.
     
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    It's not discrimination. You can't discriminate against a perceived elite majority. What you can do, is to choose to establish a more diverse personnel. Which will inevitably change the balance of groups within the whole. It's called inclusion, not discrimination.

    it sounds like it is a plan to overcome discrimination and token representation in the work force. And why would that not be good news for a public organisation? Many people have lost faith in the BBC, is for the reason that this appears to be attempting to rectify. Whether it will succeed time will tell, jobs for the boys, old school ties, the right profile etc...

    I can see able-bodied white supremacists being pissed off and their able-bodied white manhoods threatened, when they read that or look at the pictures more like. And of course, their Tory masters stand to lose their stranglehold on one part of the media.
     
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    It does if they are being deliberately overlooked based in their skin colour and gender. Shouldn't the best candidate get the job? If a man and woman both apply for a job it simply cannot be right for the hiring company to have a policy of hiring the female simply to meet a target number. It is discrimination, there's no other way to describe it
     
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    It used to be that you got a job as you were the best person for the job. I firmly believe that this is the best way to select employees.
     
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    Wrong again, it's not discrimination. Unless you are reading from the Daily Mail/BNP handbook, a public organisation should employ a workforce representative of the demographic of its customers and investors. I.E> the great and diverse British public.

    For too long, the BBC has being ignoring the principle of merit when hiring staff, in favour of a healthy white c0ck, with the right accent, that had the right school tie wrapped around it when it may, or may not have been thrust into a dead pigs mouth for larks and jollies.
     
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    Really. When 48% are women in the current workforce it's not doing too bad a job

    whilst I fully support taking steps to find good people from minorities and the disabled it isn't good if you are excluding possibly better candidates because of their colour or sex. And as for a target of 8% of LBGT people. Really! Surely someone's sexual orientation isn't even something to be considered at all
     
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    You don't think it would be discrimination to hire somebody based on the colour of their skin or their sexual preference?
     
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    Correct. The best candidate should be employed regardless of creed, colour or sexuality. If the best person is black then they get the job, same goes if they're white, gay, female or whatever. If we're filling quotas then it is discrimination. Positive discrimination is still discrimination regardless of how some choose to dress it up.
     
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    I would like to see the statistics of applications for jobs based on gender, colour etc. It shouldn't be the case to set targets to hire on percentages as it may be they aren't attracting the right applications in the first place. It's not unusual for example for companies to only attract applications from men (engineering for example). I have studied this subject and I firmly believe you hire the best person for the job irrespective of race, colour, creed or if they are Sheff Utd supporters even. The reason why I did is there is a massive gap in skills in the engineering areas and we might be missing out through our job descriptions and adverts to be male orientated. However you have to have a representative pool of qualified applicants to meet any diversity targets. Seems to me BBC aren't doing a bad job of that so to set these targets based purely on the gender etc is discrimination. If the applicant stats say 50/50 male to women and they hire 10% women then there is a wider problem.
     
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    In teaching for example, preference is often given to male applicants. Obviously the best person for the job should get it but if they are both pretty much equal then I reckon it should go to the man until numbers become a bit more equal. The children would definitely benefit from male role models (something which a lot of them simply don't have!)

    Maybe the BBC are saying the same thing and this will apply where they have similar applicants? If two people are equal then they will choose someone who will allow them to be more representative of the general population.
     
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    It's never been that anywhere, that's why legislation were brought in .
    It's nearly always been who you are etc in the jobs that matter at the top.
     
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    When someone from a 'minority group' reaches management level and is in a position to hire and fire what tends to happen is that they DON'T hire others from minority groups.
    A recent Guardian study found that women managers are more likely to promote men than women.
     
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    Part of your post is true
     

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