All you want is for them to give it a go, if you lose then to a better team then fair enough. What we saw yesterday was pathetic, in my mind of the starting 11 only Scotland and O'Grady deserve to be payed this week. As bad as anything we saw under old big 'ed. Kennedy? Might as well play Jackie Kennedy. It has been proved Wiseman cannot play at right back in a back 4, his best position is in the centre of a back 3. Ramage should have played right back. The insanity of playing Mellis and Dawson "wide" while a winger - Etuhu plays through the middle needs no further discussion. I would love to know from Flitcroft why he is reluctant to play 3-5-2 when this formation got us out of the sh*t last season and saw us comprehensively beat Huddersfield this. My advice - play 3-5-2, play RNL instead of dead Kennedy, play Digby instead of Dawson, play a back 3 and make them watch the first 20 minutes of the Hudderfield game every day next week until the remember how to close down and fight for every ball. More days like yesterday and surely its bye, bye Flicker?