Ben Mansford's position.

Surely untenable if Johnson is fired or resigns?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought BM had a very large say in such matters?

 

Spot on Marc, you beat me to it, I can't understand why he should go just because Johnson as failed, it's always a risk hiring a new manager, you can't guarantee success,

 

To be fair mate it's a thankless task, if he was picking the team and formation I'd agree with you, Ben is going to be feeling it himself

 

He has to go n all....if he has no responsibility he is just an expensive yes man....ta ta Benji, thanks for nowt.

Hth

 

Mansford can hardly be judged a success. What exactly has he brought to the club that the Don didn't.
Where as anything improved?

 

My reasoning would be that, assuming part of Mansford's remit involves the hiring and firing of managers, he fired one under very dubious pretenses last year, and employed a replacement with whom he had a personal relationship, ahead of at least one other out of work manager who was on paper much better qualified. Also, we are now in a worse position under the replacement than the one who was fired last season. In short, he's fcked up.

 

Ben should be asked some searching questions about the appointment of LJ but I don't think he's responsible for this mess.

 

Obviously I don't know for sure the details of the decision making processes at the club. But if Mansford has been involved in the hiring and firing of managers (and I'm sure I've read from a reliable source that he is) then surely he has to take on a reasonable chunk of the responsibility?

 

Condiment stations and faster internet access (due to the crowds dropping.)

Well done, Ben!

 

Not a jot of confidence in any of them!

Thanks Patrick for your help but its time to sit back in the Shackleton and enjoy your retirement.

If Lee Jay is sacked have you the confidence in the powers that be to make the correct appointment?

I certainly haven't.

 

Absolutely, I think the appointment had a lot to do with Ben but I think he was blinded by science and genuinely thought he was appointing a good manager (incompetence would be harsh so perhaps naivety is a better word). The football side is now down to one man and there is where the real problem lies.

 

You may well be right. Perhaps I'm just being overly cynical, having lived for ten years in a country where nepotism is rife, and completely incompetent people end up in positions of responsibility way above their abilities on account of who they know!

 

Spin

 

I think nepotism is a strong word. The football world is a small one. I found the appointment of Johnson strange but like Mk think western blindsided by the 'scientific' approach and forgot to see if Oldham were any good.

 

If he's responsible for letting the new catering company have a big jug of milk on the counter uncovered with God knows how many people coughing, sneezing etc near it, thus ruining hygeine rules instead of making them give out them little cups of milk then yeah he should go.

 

It is indeed a strong word. However - DW sacked incredibly harshly. LJ, known to have a personal relationship with BM, is appointed with little track record. You can see where this is going. I'm not saying that BM had promised his mate a job, and I don't doubt that he thought that LJ was a good manager. However, I think it's not beyond the realms that he wasn't just blinded by the science.

 

Ben's boss is to blame for this big sorry mess not ben, not the managers, not don, not the groundsman, not the bloke who changes the lightbulbs. No the blame lies squarely at the feet of the man at the top of the company