Benefit Cheats vs Tax Avoidance

Benefit fraud = £700 million per year
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/campaigns/benefit-thieves/

Pensioners 'fail to claim' benefits worth £4.2 Billion per year
http://society.guardian.co.uk/social...056810,00.html

Total unclaimed benefits = £7 billon per year
http://www.channel4.com/money/feature.jsp?id=416

Tax avoidance = between £82 - £150 Billion last year.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/col...cle2439509.ece


Who do we hear about the most?

Why are massively rich white upper class Englishmen not the ones being thrown in jail or ridiculed in the right-wing press for avoiding paying taxes that they should? Why do benefit cheats and immigrants get all of the rough end of the stick?

 

Bottom one does not work

 

Because if scrubber b'stards didn't fiddle their benefits then the normal people wouldn't be stung for as much tax and wouldn't rightly try to minimise their tax contribution to the feckless and workshy.

 

Racist

I find your assumption that all people indulging in tax avoidance to be white as astonishingly racist.

You appear to be suggesting that to be rich in this country one has to be white and I find this overtly racist and objectionable.

 

Well said TM What about them Asian money launderers ?

&pound;Millions gone out of the UK in revenue payments thanks to them.</p>

Why is it the white man that is always assumed to be the tax avoider ? Your blinkered Polytechnic view of the world does you no favours.</p>

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Dirk's Polytechnic view

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I find it totally irrelevant to link all these together.....

Benefit fraud and Tax avoidance are ILLEGAL....

Whereas Pensioners 'fail to claim' benefits and Total unclaimed benefits are not.


it is not also well written in relation to "white and upper class", as tax avoidance is done at all levels from all backgrounds, as is benefit claimants (illegal or not).

Your way of writing this is nothing more than to provoke what could end up being another bloody boring racism debate.

 

RE: Well said TM What about them Asian money launderers ?

Because the vast majority of the super rich in this country are in fact white and male. (gent) ;-)

Of course I was being argumentative to prove a point in reverse. They should pay regardless of who they are yet the government, papers and press just love a good old thrashing of the immigrants and benefit cheats.

 

RE: I find it totally irrelevant to link all these together.....

Since when was tax avoidance illegal?

 

"I was being argumentative to prove a point in reverse"

Eh ?</p>

You made an assumption based on skin colour. Racism is as racism does.</p>

 

I think you will find in the following

"Why are massively rich white upper class Englishmen not the ones being thrown in jail or ridiculed in the right-wing press for avoiding paying taxes that they should"


the words


"thrown in jail"

and

"avoiding paying taxes that they should"


which to me suggests, that not paying taxes that they should, and in the same sentence he is referring to being thrown in jail, that he is making a remark about the illegal side of tax avoidance. not the poncing around of putting money in off shore accounts via loopholes etc that are not illegal.

 

RE: "I was being argumentative to prove a point in reverse"

LOL you miss my point entirely.

The press and some people love banging on about immigrants taking our benefits etc., my post was a tongue in cheek attempt to point out the hypocrisy of it.


Stop being so precious. (blaze)

 

If we can make assumptions based on 'the vast majority' argument

Can we start 'profiling' at airports so non muslims aren't subjected to the same security checks as muslims ?</p>

You inverted racist.</p>

 

RE: I find it totally irrelevant to link all these together.....

it isn't. Tax evasion is. What's the difference ? the thickness of a prison wall !!!!

 

RE: Dirk's Polytechnic view

50 strokes....

 

RE: I find it totally irrelevant to link all these together.....

Benefit fraud and Tax avoidance are ILLEGAL....

Whereas Pensioners 'fail to claim' benefits and Total unclaimed benefits are not.[/QUOTE]

And why would I suppose not claiming benefits is illegal? ERmm derrr......they were there to show how much money isn't being claimed that should be claimed.

True, but then people on low incomes who are avoiding paying tax aren't saving that much whereas one person earning £20m a year is saying huge amounts that aren't going back into schools, and public services etc......

No, it was to prove a double standard that exists when it comes to the demonisation of certain sections of the population.

 

RE: I find it totally irrelevant to link all these together.....

Poltics of envy.....

 

RE: If we can make assumptions based on 'the vast majority' argument

I think you fail to see the difference between a piece of fly on the wall observation and a statement of belief.

Muslims? Airports? Inverted racist?

I can only assume I hate my own skin colour......thanks for filling me in. lol

 

RE: I find it totally irrelevant to link all these together.....

Politics of equality.

 

A what and a what ?

We can either make assumptions based on skin colour or we can't.</p>

Boo the rich white man, boo.</p>