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  1. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

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    Anybody see it on the BBC?

    Quite enjoyed it. Brought up some troubling issues.

    Reminded me of Derby fans throwing bananas at Winston Campbell in 1983.

    What were they thinking with the shorts?
     
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    I'm not the greatest fan of Adrian Chiles but I thought he did a good job presenting the programme and it did give an honest view of the racism in football at that time.

    What was curious was that none of the White players had much recollection of the match whereas the Black players remembered it very well.
     
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    Obviously meant a lot more to them.
     
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    I didn't watch it - but was interested what the motivation behind the organising of the match was.

    Did the FA believe this would somehow help race relations or was it designed to be some kind of proof of Arian superiority (that's a joke by the way)

    The 70's were different times - and this could have been some desperately awkward attempt to shed light and direct focus on a troublesome subject by some well meaning folk, but I'm struggling to imagine how that meeting went.

    FA bloke - right lads our west indian brethren are having some trouble being accepted and some fans are throwing bananas at them. I think what would be really useful is to have 11 of our lads knock 20 goals past them to show they're just as **** as we are and no threat to humanity. That ought to improve race relations.
     
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    It was Len Cantello's benefit match. I missed the start of the program so I don't know who suggested it but nothing to do with The FA it was entirely a West Brom thing.
     
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    On the subject of racism

    I remember once Tony Cunningham having an off-day and some wag shouted from the Ponty "Cunningham, tha like 14 stone of black pudding". Probably not acceptable today but at the time it made everybody laugh.

    I don't remember any incidents of bananas being thrown at opposition players at Oakwell nor monkey chants but I'm sure it must have happened at some time.

    I once had the misfortune of sitting next to a group of real racists in the East Stand very very unpleasant, particularly with regard to an Asian policeman patrolling the pitch.
     
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    Nephew teaches in a Liverpool Primary School - roughly 50% Black and 50% White. Playtime the boys will often have a Black v White football match. When it comes to a competitive match against another school players pick each other on ability not colour.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    I think I have to point you towards the Arsenal game in the 1990's where Ian Wright was subjected to the worst abuse I have ever heard anywhere towards a player.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    League Cup game, pissing it down and we got hammered. The racist abuse was absolutely disgusting, walked out after 30 mins or so, ashamed to be a Red that night.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    The racist abuse and monkey chants were common from the Ponty in the late 80s/early 90s - even when we had non-white players ourselves - although I can't recall too many between the early 80s and when Viv Anderson was managing.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    Banana skins were thrown at Winnie Campbell at Bumhole Lane once as well
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    Surprises me. Plenty of poor behaviour in the 80s / 90s at Oakwell. Downright embarrassing at times. Most cringeworthy memory for me was a match mid-80s when the entire Ponty end started "We've got no N***ers in our team" to the tune of "we got the whole world in our hands". That was a regular thing if memory serves.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    I remember it as recent as early noughties, be about 2001 cos Id just started taking my first born.....Kevin Betsy used to get plenty of racist abuse, I nearly planted a nearby neanderthal for it and my 6yr old lad was with me at the time. Funny they didnt have a pop at Bruce or Isaiah Rankin in the same way.
     
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    I'd forgotten about the Arsenal game but yes it was a shameful night.

    The racist chanting/gestures towards Brian Deane and Tony Agana in the 2nd replay of our FA Cup tie v Sheffield United in 1990 is still the foulest and worst thing I've ever heard from Barnsley supporters.
     
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    I've heard about the abuse towards Ian Wright. Reaidng his book at the moment and he touches on racism but haven't seen any references to us. I haven't heard chanting of a racist nature since the early 2000's at Oakwell.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    I remember a game against Sheffield United when there was some appalling racist abuse and monkey chants from the BFC terraces. It would have been around '88 / '89 and Dave Bassett was their manager if my recollection is correct.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    Now you mention it, I think it was an FA Cup replay wasn't it? Dean and Agana being the players abused.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    I may be suffering from selective memory. I didn't get to many games in the late 80s and early 90s though.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    I wasn't at that game but I'm ashamed nevertheless.
     
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    Re: On the subject of racism

    Yes, that's the one. It was a very unpleasant atmosphere.
     
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