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  1. ryhilltyke

    ryhilltyke Well-Known Member

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    Johnson and Milner are woeful. How is glen Johnson better than Micah Richards?.
    Milner is just w@nk.
    Ashley young was abysmal tonight, time for changes.
     
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    Can't disagree with any of that RT
     
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    Thought Johnson played well tonight - good tackles in. Richards has played hardly any football . Agree with other two though
     
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    Stop talking ****, Johnson had another good game.

    You are up there with all the other moaners on here. Cant moan about score which will be killing you so you have gone to chattingshit.
     
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    Thought Johnson made some good tackles, although he was forced into it by getting the wrong side or letting the player go in the first place, but at least he recovered.
     
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    Not at fault for either goal - wouldn't have full backs picking up cb -
     
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    I thought Johnson had a good game too Milner and Young were both poor. Walcott very impressive when he came on
     
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    He scored an own goal and lost his marker for the second, I don't know how you've come to that conclusion.
     
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    I would personally drop Young for the next game and would also play Rooney in the hole behind the main striker.
     
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    There you have it, wrong side every time.
     
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    Harsh to put that down as a own goal, he got on the line and very unfortunate not to clear it.
     
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    BBC labelled it as an own goal mate. I have no idea why England managers keep picking him ahead of Micah Richards.
     
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    Looked like an own goal to me. Hart saved it, it was missing the goal, it hit Johnson and went in.

    Not that I'd blame Johnson like, he couldn't get out of the way, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an og.
     
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    Your blind and no bugger all he saved 2 certain goals with last ditch tackles.
     
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    Johnson was completely at fault for the first goal. First shot came in and was blocked by the wall all players moved up except jJohnson who stood still thereby playing the swedish player on side, realising his mistake he charge across to try and make amends and got in the way of Harts save deflecting it back into the goal. Just because he nearly cleared it off the line doesn't make it that he was in the right position. If he had moved up with the rest of the back line the swedish player would have been offside.
     
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    The first thing to say is that this is the poorest England team that I can remember. However, Sweden are even worse and we were fortunate to beat them. We had problems all over the pitch, but like you, I thought some of our biggest problems were on our right side. No further comments are necessary with regard to Milner. He was woeful against the French and he was worse against the Swedes. Johnson's passing was poor all night. He was at fault for Sweden's first goal because he was playing the scorer onside. Having cleared the initial attempt on goal from the free kick, the rest of the back line came out together, as they should, leaving Johnson behind and at fault.

    Hodgson is being praised for his tactics. I do not agree. I thought that the two banks of four were too rigid and made us very predictable. He also played Young very narrow. When your team has the ball you need to find space, and that space is out wide. There was no one running from mid-field beyond the front two, even though Sweden were very slow down the middle. It was as if the team was scared to get out of the straight-jacket of the 4-4-2 structure that it had been given. Hopefully, Rooney's introduction in the next game will make us less predictable in the mid-field area, although I cannot see us progressing beyond the last 16.
     
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    I dont understand all the finger pointing at Johnson here - I wouldnt have picked him as RB either but he has played better in our 2 games than I expected He was probably our best defender on the night. You can argue that he was partly responsible for the first goal by not stepping up fast enough but there are plenty of others who share some of the blame, and to blame him for the second is puzzling to say the least 2 unmarked players at the back left hand oist inside the 6 yard box and some are blaming the right back - bizarre.
    He got no support fom Milner who I thought was poor both going forwards and defensively game changed when we put a proper winger on.

    We need to win the group to progress though as if we finish second we will almost certainly be playing Spain and I cant see us getting through that. we might have some chance against Croatia / Italy but odds not grreat.

    Not really sure how you can really have a go at Roy though we all agree that the squad he has is as poor as we can remember and being honest apart from a few personal preferences there arent many changes you could make yet he got us a draw against France and win against Sweden - if he gets a point next Tuesday he will have got the team further than most of us thought he would and if we get knocked out by the European and World Champions it would hardly be a sacking offence. Not there yet though....
     
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    England are ****. Light years behind the better nations in this tournament.

    The players are just disgustingly overpaid tossers trying to create the illusion that they are potential winners and that they actually give a **** in the first place.
     
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    I cannot understand why Micah Richards was not taken in the original squad. Then how he was overlooked for Kelly beggars belief, unless there is something we do not know about the whole thing - fitness, or the politics with Terry, for example. Richards is an excellent right back, who, like Johnson (Sweden had Johnson sorted last night) is an attacking threat as well. He can also play in the centre of defence and, with Terry looking not one hundred per cent last night (will he last to the knock-out stage if we get there) we could regret leaving Micah at home. Strange one, but Roy seems to have got the rest sorted out well enough. You can't argue with his tactical switches so far!! "I don't need good generals, I need lucky ones!" I think that was attributed to Nelson.
     
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    Football systems seem to go in cycles. The current fashion is to keep the ball and the England team is trying to do so, even though it is not, and never will be our natural style. Spain and Barcelona have been successful with it, but unlike most people, I dislike it. If football was about setting an objective of tiring their opponents out before seeking to attack the opposition goal, I do not think that it would have achieved the following it has. Again, my view is that when you are participating in the game, it is about winning. When you are watching the game, it is equally about entertainment. I do not see the entertainment in watching the England back 4 passing the ball between them. Equally, a 4-4-2 system, which is operated too rigidly is designed not to concede. It is not designed to allow players to create space, and it is not designed to entertain.

    I am not blind to the fact that this site is occupied by fanatics, who believe the end justifies the means. I also understand that most of the British press are of the same opinion. I do question whether football can survive profitably in the long term if entertainment is consigned to the dustbin. I was critical of Mark Robins for the poor entertainment produced by his team and I do not for one moment think that Roy Hodgson should be immune from criticism on the same basis.
     

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