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  1. Dis

    DiscoTyke New Member

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    What's all the fuss about Luton being deducted 30 points??

    I can't believe that fans of other clubs are rallying around LTFC due to the so called 'injustice' of the points deduction. It seems as though they are imagining what it would feel like if it was their own club BUT conveniently ignoring the FACT Luton Town have commited serious breaches against football league rules aka Leeds Utd.

    If the Football League took a 'sympathetic' point of view and waived the points- so as not to be harsh on the Luton fans - where would that leave the majority of the other clubs (and their onw fans) who have followed the rules?? Easy - it would put them at a disadvantage and so encourage them to commit similar breaches if encounteted with the same scenario, knowing such misdemanours would go unpunished.

    Glad I got that off mi chest.............and if anything my cricticms is with the Football League because once again - aka Leeds Utd - they have bottled demoting a club when there seemed a strong case to do so.
     
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    Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Its a fair cop as far as I am concerned

    and dirty l**ds got off lightly
     
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    uncle mort New Member

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    for once me and thee agree nt
     
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    Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    Thats it, I'm off.

    **** it
     
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    Denby Dale Tyke New Member

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    Its the supporters who suffer, they haven't done owt wrong.

    I feel for them, next season becomes pointless.
     
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    Spartacus Well-Known Member

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    They'll no what its like to be newcastle fans then

    :D
     
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    uncle mort New Member

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    RE: Thats it, I'm off.

    did I say summat wrong ???? :)
     
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    DiscoTyke New Member

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    RE: Its the supporters who suffer, they haven't done owt wrong.

    Everybody feels for them but you can't seperate them from the club - all fans share their success and all fans share their clubs failures. That's what been a true supporter is all about...........wouldn't it be a bigger injustice to not punish Luton on the grounds the supporters are innocent and therefore indirectly punish ALL the fans of the other 23 clubs in Div 2 - whose repsective clubs have stuck by the rules, but are then on a level playing field with a club that broke the rules.

    Put it this way, say you supported Rochdale and had to beat Luton in the play off final. Luton had been let off with the points deduction for the sake of their fans - and Luton beat you. How much sympathy do you then have with their predicament??
     
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    ryhilltyke Well-Known Member

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    have a minute, it's a new board, a new club, why should they be punished

    it is the old board who made the mistakes. they should be in court
     
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    Dan Well-Known Member

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    RE: have a minute, it's a new board, a new club, why should they be punished

    Why should the new board benefit from the mistakes the old board made?

    The football club is being punished, no matter who is at the helm!
     
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    Wath Red New Member

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    sorry but

    the only people that get punished are the fans who do nothing but pay their money to support their club!

    I will never understand the getting docked points for going into Admin? The money TV has brought to the top flight clubs has breached the gap so much that smaller clubs just cannot cope yet rather than trying to help fliter the tv money down to the lower leagues the Football league decide to punish a club for going into admin when costs to run a club are at an all time high thus making it harder for them to recover.

    Its probably not as blank and white as that but the TV money created this downfall of clubs who struggle financially as it has inflated costs massively.....................Scarborough FC just that!
     
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    Wath Red New Member

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    you can seperate them

    as they do not have a say in how the club is ran and you would think as fellow fans we would not hold any animosity to that club as it is the individuals who have done wrong not the fans who are what make a football club..........but the loyal fans who will stay with them not the glory fans of promotion season or cup runs will suffer.

    The points deduction to Luton could spell the end for them as a club as they might never recover so is that then a win for Football fans across the country losing another club due to a group of peoples actions?

    How is this different to West Ham? I'm not defending Luton or saying they should not be deducted points but the whole situation is out of hand and football is suffering especially in the lower leagues!
     
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    Merde Tete Well-Known Member

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    RE: you can seperate them

    I agree that 30 seems extremely excessive, or even 20 for this single offence. Isn't it the same one that Leeds got docked 15 points for? In this case, where's the consistency?
     
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    Dyson Well-Known Member

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    The reason they dock points is to use going into admin as a deterrant. Remember Leicester a few years back? Went into admin which allowed them to cut their debts considerably, kept all their players and got promoted.

    And to be fair, this is the 3rd time in 5 years Luton have gone into admin. Seems fair enough to me.
     
  15. Gue

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    We aren't without previous in this type of thing

    Everybody should be grateful current attitudes prevailed when we were attempting to come out of admin. Sean Lewis.
     
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    barnsley66 Well-Known Member

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    I think the league excuse is 3rd Administration in 10 years

    I agree that 30 points is completely over the top.

    When the League introduced the 10 point deduction for entering Administration, I thought it was the MAXIMUM they would give. The way it was worded, they would look at each case on its merits and impose a penalty up to 10 points. However, they seem to be imposing the 10 points no matter what the circumstances.

    As a fan, I feel sorry for the fans of Luton. Again they are the ones that suffer, just as we did. We were lucky however, and missed the introduction of the 10 point penalty.

    The only consolation you can give them, is to look at clubs that have dropped out of the league, and come back stronger than before.
     
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    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    I bet Rotherham are quite worried now

    Second period of administration in two years, no stadium or training ground to call their own, playing outside the borough with no definitive plans in place for a new ground to be built in the near future.
     
  18. Gue

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    Ken Booth or Patrick Cryne ?

    Take your pick.
     
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    JLWBigLil Well-Known Member

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    I pick Patrick Cryne

    That leaves you with Ken Booth.
     
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    North Yorks Red Well-Known Member

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    RE: sorry but

    I know what you are saying but if clubs are punished by regimes rather than a club as a whole then theres nothing to stop clubs in the future breaking the rules and having 'puppet' boards lined up to transfer to whilst the original lot stay in control but in the background.And I think we all know which type chairman of scumbag clubs would play the system for all it was worth
     

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