Boris Press conference

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  1. BarnsleyReds

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    The world..... close things, isolate, stop flights and travel, cancel sporting events and large gatherings.

    The UK........ well let’s see how it goes.
     
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    We're an absolute joke. The uncertainty causes as much damage as full closure or cancellations in many cases.

    We're lagging behind the rest of the world and it's becoming an embarrassment
     
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    Thank the Lord. Common sense prevails. We need to start properly targeting measures to help the people who are at serious risk from this and stop knee jerk, reactionary b0ll0x that makes people panic buy and seeks to protect those who are only going to get the symptoms of a mild cold in any case.
     
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    When a PM says you will lose loved one's and still isn't closing down the country you have to worry. What aren't they telling us? How long can this virus survive inside and outside of hosts? Why not shut the country down for 2 weeks? Deploy the military and other public services in protective gear to deliver basic supplies door to door if needed, starting with the worst off communities.
     
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    Because that’s a ludicrous overreaction to a condition that’s a mild inconvenience for the enormous majority of people who experience it. It would also drive panic, antisocial behaviour and the type of panic buying that could drive a much wider and worse health crisis. Seriously, chill your beans out. Look after the elderly and vulnerable. The rest will be fine.

    Also, how many military and public services do you think we’ve got?
     
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    I dont think you are right - I hope you are but all the evidence points to us heading for a massive spike in cases and having many times more people needing intensive care than there are beds leading to many avoidable deaths. Already in Italy they are out of beds and ventilators - we could be out of beds in the next 2 weeks. Its already likely that around 10000 are infected and without stringent measures that number will go through the roof
    What Boris has outlined are nothing like enough - its actually terrifying
     
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    Safeguard the elderly and children. Try and quell the hysteria outbreak too.
     
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    C82E264C-19F1-4E2D-A2E6-2FDED6E8183D.png If people can’t see where efforts need to be targeted then I can’t help you.
     
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    Massive massive massive lol! Deploy the military? What military? We are on our bare arse day to day already just to keep some sort of force in place at all.

    I really hope you’ve said that in jest!
     
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    Industrial areas especially mining and Steel works based .
    Not holdiing much hope out from London though .
     
  12. Tyk

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    People really want Army on the streets in Hazmat gear, house arrest of the population and rationing? Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg have sent you actually mental.
     
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    All the evidence from other countries says you are incorrect.

    In terms of death rate you’re correct, of course, but it’s a lot more complicated than that. And even so, surely 15% of the elderly is a massive amount of people to just sacrifice like we appear to be doing. 15%. That’s the approximate % of the whole attendance that sits in the west stand at most home games, to put it in common terms. That, multiplied throughout the entire country’s elderly population. That’s a lot of people to let die, because the alternative is that they might get lonely. Bordering on gross negligence, I would say.

    The evidence is looking like even in younger people, those that are infected badly are often left with permanent damage to their lungs. How often does that happen with a common cold?
     
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    No we're not, we're going on the advice of scientists.
     
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    I don’t think anybody ‘wants’ that. Sometimes extreme measures have to be taken to protect those that are most at risk.
     
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    So are the rest of the world, though. What makes our scientists right and theirs wrong?
     
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    Boris didn't outline anything. Scientists did. People who know more than him, or me or you.
     
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    What makes them right and ours wrong?
     
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    If you read my post, I’m not saying we should allow it to go unchecked through that population. What I’m saying is measures need to be specifically targeted to protect them. At the moment all the measures are totally generic. No advice is targeted at old people - if anything, they’re targeted at children and young people - talk of closing down schools and the like. Why?? It makes no sense!! Elderly people and those who are immunosuppressed or immunocompromised need to be carefully looked after. Everyone else needs to crack on and grow a pair.

    if you’re right about the permanent lung damage then that is potentially different but all the reputable medical stuff that I am reading isn’t saying that.
     
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    I’m looking at the arguments made by scientists of many nations and forming my own opinion.

    In fact, if you listen to what was said, ‘our scientists’ admitted that more drastic measures would help more than what they have proposed, but they have decided to not do more to try and limit the ‘loneliness’ of elderly people and because they don’t trust that people will abide by the rules for long enough so they want to wait to bring the rules in so that people are not bored of staying at home too soon.

    That’s not an argument that I particularly subscribe to.
     

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