Redundancies are set to be announced at our place. 51 technical staff were informed of 'potential' redundancy this afternoon. They're making them re-apply for their jobs, and only 23 will be successful. In other words, they're chopping that department in half. I'm fortunate in so much as I run part of a department that only I'm trained to do, as it's quite new, so they'd be ****** if I weren't there. But I've become good pals with one of the lads in technical over the last couple of years, so it's a bit **** like. Creates a depressing atmosphere too, few months before Christmas n all. Aldi and Lidl's success is killing Morrisons. Foreign supermarkets killing Yorkshire uns. It's sad. And it's all down to the overpaid suits and management who get the big decisions wrong, but retain their overpaid roles and then get rid of the grafters at the bottom end of the pay-scale to try and save money and look good in front of even more overpaid suits. Tis the way of the western world.
Why don't Asda and Morrisons offer the same combination of value and quality that Lidl and Aldi do? Then more people would go there. Used to go to Asda all the time, but been going to Lidl for past couple of years, quality the same, prices far far lower. Market forces I'm afraid.
Correct. Morrisons got so many important decisions badly wrong and like most businesses its those at the bottom who get punished. How did Morrison's manage to miss the boat on delivery's by so many years? That really is appalling manage!ent from those at the top. And then there's the pricing. I've noticed for example that the crisps and things at Morrison's are always so much more expensive for example the other day on Pringles the prices were Asda £1, tesco £1.24, Morrison's £2.48 What do you do at work Whitey that makes you so valuable compared to the others?
I take ure point Whitey but....thereev household saves approx. £70 per month by using Aldi now and again.....would be more if we went every week. Simple economics really......fook giving the overpriced supermarkets our money (Asda Tesco, Morrison's etc) when we can go to Aldi where some of the stuff is just as nice if not better. £70 is better in my family's pocket than said suits pocket. As for being laid off, it's shlte as I have been done twice in the past so know all about that one. But it's only a job....plenty more of them about if you really want it. As for being irreplaceable at your place, don't bank on it cos no one in the history of the world has caused the planet to stop spinning after their departure! Work is ****....fullstop. hth
Branded stuff will be the same, no question. Stands to reason. But the quality of our stuff pisses all over Aldi and Lidl, and Asda and Tesco. Only Sainsbury's can match Morrisons for quality of own-brand produce. Fully accept the "I'll shop where it's cheapest" argument, like.
I believe the big supermarkets are being attacked from both above and below, in a marketing sense. For everyday shopping, we wouldn't dream of going to any of the big boys, simply because it's far too expensive. We go to Aldi and Lidl and save an absolute fortune. For special occasion shopping, romantic meals in, inviting guests round etc, we tend to use the myriad of farm shops for very good quality stuff, paying the top prices they charge. Loads of people I know do this. Unfortunately, the supermarkets don't fit anywhere into this model. That said, I know some people who won't shop at Aldi and Lidl "on principle", because they think it's cheap junk. Their loss. Living part of the time in Germany helps me, shopping at Aldi and Lidl is the norm over there. Whatever the arguments, best wishes to you and your mates for the future, hope the "suits" sort things out so the lower level staff don't have to take such a hit.
You're bang on regards the delivery service, they got that AND online shopping badly wrong. They've only recently got on board with that modern approach. I can't comment on prices in store because I don't work in store, and r lass gets the shopping from there, I can't abide shopping. We get a 20% discount, but I shopped at Morrisons long before I worked there. But **** knows, as I say, I know it's not great etc and I know where the faults are. But it's a sad state of affairs when what was literally one man flogging bread and such stuff years and years ago on Bradford market, became the success that Morrisons became, and is now being ruined, and in part, by cheap foreign stores that have been around for donkeys but folk are only just using them based only on cost. Because there's not a ******* chance the quality is of the same standard.
Exactly, folk go where things are cheap. Can't fault it. And I've been made redundant before, so it dunt phase me. I don't expect it to affect me, but you never know I suppose. I'm over-qualified anyway. I just like the fact it takes me 10 minutes to get to work, it's a piece of piss work-wise and my immediate gaffers are good lads. I wouldn't want to lose my job. But I'd not struggle to find another.
Yep, can't fault yer. Just a shame the big supermarkets lost their way, especially Morrisons. They used to be the smallest one, the cheapest and friendliest etc. Unfortunately, they got greedy, started rivalling the big boys and lost that war. Now, they're losing customers to the cheap tat shops too. As for Farm Shops, we use em too. Perfect quality.
I find the fruit & veg better at Morissons than the lidl's at town end, both on cost and quality. In fact when I go into Lidl's I struggle to spend more than a tenner. There's just nothing in there that I need.
This. Morrisons and Tesco were up against it as soon as it became socially acceptable to shop at Lidl/Aldi. Go back 10 years and a lot of people would not be seen dead in them as they wrongly had a reputation for being supermarkets for the poor. Probably due to the fact that they have a basic, slightly unorganised layout and have an aisle where they sell all kinds of weird tat like spare wheelbarrow wheels. But then the recession hit and people were forced to look to save a few quid here and there. People who would never have otherwise set foot in Aldi started going, and were pleasantly surprised. Word spread and the foreign supermarkets were embraced by a much larger section of society.
Down here in poshest Surrey we shop at Waitrose and the Windsor farm shop. Not bad for a bloke from Elsecar. Mind you the missis is from Penistone originally which might explain it
i have to disagree about the quality. I have been a Store Manager for Iceland, Coop, Aldi, Lidl and Somerfield. My last Job (before I decided to work for myself) was as GSM for Sainsburys. I used to be a bit of a Job Whore!!! I digress…. If I was to put those companies in order of quality of products - Based wholly on numerous visits to various taste test events, supplier events, customer satisfaction and my own fat belly…… as well as having a pretty good knowledge of the % margin of products. worst quality - Iceland - Most own label frozen products are manufactured in Thailand, and made to satisfy a price point. I worked for them for a number of years and saw the quality drop quite sharply when they became the first supermarket to change from the 99p PP to Round£Pricing (£1 £2 etc) Iceland Branded groceries - colgate for example - are purchased on what is called the ITEX market (commonly known as the grey market) these are branded products sold to countries such as France for cheaper than they are in the UK, Iceland buy these items cheaper from France than they could in the UK - they stick an english ingredients label over the french one…. Somerfield - The vast majority of own label products were manufactured by "smaller brand" businesses, for example Hill's biscuits made all of their own label biscuits. Princes foods made the own brand tinned goods etc.. Margins on own label foods were around 15% - 20% higher than the margins on branded products. However, most branded products had lower margins due to the concept of space purchasing (where large brands ie. Heinz - paid for their products to be placed on the "prime shelf". (NB in the case of pringles stated above - the price point is generally dictated by the supplier and their promotional discount, pringles will be on offer in most supermarkets over the year in a rolling basis… so they may be on offer at £1 in Morrisons and Tesco - but not asda and sainsburys but they switch over to the other 2… if that makes sense) Lidl - Try to compete on par with Aldi, but do not have the buying power to maintain the price points at the same quality as Aldi. Lidl generally do use Uk companies to Manufacture their food stuffs, but household and other non foods are made on the continent. (if you have ever noticed the floor tiles in Lidl are a direct rip off from the Aldi ones) Coop - now here is a strange one, their fresh produce is of good quality and a lot comes from there own farms, however they are solely contracted to buying from their own farmers in the first instance, so if the quality isn't as good, its tough luck as they have to buy it. The groceries are of a good standard but most of the own label suppliers have now been switched over to the old Somerfield suppliers as they bought them out 6 years ago. Sainsburys - Always had great quality own label groceries and they do share a lot of own label manufacturers as Marks and Spencer and Morrisons (although to be honest most supermarkets use the same suppliers for most own label stuff - Greencore make sandwiches for the most of the major supermarkets. I always found their fresh fruit and veg to be of good quality but the price points are quite high and are driven solely by Margin. The best Aldi - Every one of their own label products is made to a price point and the margins are (on the whole) standard across the product groups, so cheese will have the same % margin as crisps. However although they manage their prices heavily they have enormous buying power so can ensure the quality is the highest it can be for the price that you pay. take for example mushy peas - price point is around 15p - an average supermarket will sell say 5 cases a week and as a whole business they may sell 1000 cases a week. An aldi store may sell upwards of 40 cases a week, however these mushy peas are sold in EVERY store in EVERY country so the numbers quickly become huge. This can drop the supplier purchase price down to as little as 8p hence why they can sell for 15p but they can demand a better quality because of the numbers they buy…. Anyway thats my brain used for today..
some of the aldi stuff is way better and cheaper than the big supermarkets no brainer really they save on presentation and staff numbers.....can't knock em