Can anyone remember a 'turnaround' before?

Having experienced the slumps, the calls for the managers head before, over my 25 years at Oakwell, I am struggling to recall them happening, and then everything turning around.
I read here, twitter, facebook and the Chron, and it seems we have once again arrived at the point of no return.
I just wondered if I had forgot a time where despite the calls for a manager to go, during an awful slump, we saw a dramatic upturn in fortunes and everybody regained their faith in the management/squad etc. I am obviously talking about the last 25 years only. I can't for obvious reasons remember owt before that.
The worry is, that I've a good memory and cannot recall one manager turning fan opinion around. Once the calls for change etc occur, it always (I think) ends in one way - slump continues, and bye bye manager.

 

Or to put it another way we've never given a manager a proper opportunity. Something like14 managers in 14 years. Embarrassing. And how many times has that change in manager brought a significant upturn in fortunes? Twice since Wilson, and while others would disagree I'd argue in Bassetts case this was to the detriment of the long term future of the club.

 

Do you think KK is capable of being the unique one, and turning it around?

 

My argument would be that managers turning it around isn't a unique notion, just one that they are not given the chance to achieve because football clubs sack them too quickly.

Are we capable of starting to pick up more points under Hill? Yes. In our last four games we drew away at Bolton, lost to Cardiff and really should have got a draw, drew with Burnley and really should have nicked a win, and got hammered to in form Watford. Those 2 points could have easily been 7. I would be worried if we were uncompetitive but we aren't.

That said Wednesday and Birmingham are massive games and we need to start turning games in which we should have got something into results.

 

Agree.

 

So do I, actually.
And so it's down to KK to up the tempo, select the best team, and be that unique man.
So want to get back in love with him, but can't see it happening. The trust has gone.

 

Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

On 22nd Jan 1994 we lost 2-1 away to Charlton. We were in 23rd position. We'd been in bottom 3 since October. We then won 7 of the next 9 games which saved our season. We went on another bit of a slump towards the end of the season, but we looked relegated in January and we ended up finishing 18th.

Alan Clarke turned it around in the 1986/87 season. We lost all our first six games. By the new year we'd won only 3 games. But in the second half of the season we had promotion winning form and finished 11th.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

That 86/87 season - was that started when we won 4-3 at Hull ? Seem to remember that was a catalyst for an upturn.

 

I can remember runaround with Mike Reid.

Dawson would be good at that game.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

Yup, won 4-3 at Hull on New Years day. We then won 4 and drew 4 of the next 8 matches and won 13 games in the second half of the season.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

Did Anderson not switch to 5-3-2 as well ? I'm sure we set off 4-4-2 that season and then ended up with Fleming as sweeper.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

He definitely started 4-4-2, but then realised he needed another centre back. But I think the biggest factor in our turnaround was getting rid of Bryson and Biggins and bringing in Payton. Once he started pairing Payton with Rammell we started winning games.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

Reight, that side of Butler, Bishop. Taggs, Fleming etc - how do you think they'd do in the Championship now ? _ Assuming we time travel and bring them here at the ages they were back then like....

 

Phats and small. Circa 1996

 

Tha looking kinda down to me.

And f.ck off '96. '99 at least.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

Anderson did nothing, Danny Wilson was effectivly running the side from January of that season

 

1999. 96 wasn't a bad guess.

Proper bo.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

If they kept off the pies and the beer I think they'd do fine. A lot of people reckon the Championship gets better every year. I don't. I reckon if you brought Hunter's team or Wilson's team to play in this era they'd both be challenging for promotion.

 

Cheers Jay, you are bang on. He did.
As a 12 year old though, I don't recall the fan opinion back then. Were we all against him, wanted rid?
I do remember the "we want Dennis out" chants under him though, and under Wilson pre 96.

 

Re: Viv Anderson turned it around in the 1993-94 season

I wouldn't say 'better' - I genuinely belive that how money is skewing it makes it far more difficult for us, P'bro etc - ie teams sans Parachute payments or massive backing to compete - not impossible but more difficult.

Think some of the football in recent years has been cak.