Can someone tell me the reason for security guards???

I've just come out of the Asda when me and my pal saw 2 little junky scroates walking round the shop, 1 of them had a pair of mole-grips literally hanging out of his back pocket. On leaving the shop I approached the security guard to give him the heads up and the useless tw@t just laughed and ignored me!!!!

You can't tell me that they were filling up on snacks to go back to work!!! More like fueling up for a night on the rob, it absolutely makes my piss boil that everyday citizens try to keep a vigilante eye out for wrong un's then jumped up little hitters can't be arsed when a member of the public merely mentions about undesirables roaming there store!!

Rant over...........

 

I read that as jumped up little hitlers, and thought "that's a bit harsh"

 

It probably is to be honest but there job is to protect there store and answer to members of the public.....is it not?

To laugh at me is a joke

 

Had you reported a 14 year old girl the he-men in uniforms would probably have got stuck in. I have to be balanced though as there are some good ones - there is a giant of a man works as the security guard at Morrisons and he does a good job; I've seen him tackle people loads of times including a group of smack head chavs who were on the rob.

 

Just phone the cops....they'll come racing down

 

Protect the store yes, answer to the public ??, they aren't the Police

 

I've maybe gone a bit OTT but come on there job is to get shut of undesirables not laugh at someone who is tipping them off......

 

If they were just walking around the shop, what should he have done?

 

Until they've actually done something he surely has to treat them the same as any other prospective paying customer?

 

In your time mark you will have seen people who you think 'they're up to no good' and that's exactly what they were up to!!!!

Why walk round asda at 22.20 with mole grips dangling from your jeans?

 

Did you actually see them pinch something?

 

If I was up to no good, I'd certainly keep the mole grips out of the sight of potential vigilantes...

 

I didn't no BUT if you was in a supermarket late on and saw 2 guys walking round with mole grips dangling from there jeans what would you do?

 

I may not be up on the latest burglary techniques, but mole grips wouldn't make me suspicious at all. I associate them with holding stuff down and getting bolts out that are stuck when working on car or doing DIY, not robbing folk. I'm not saying they don't use them, it's just I don't know about it. If they were carrying a baseball bat, a crow bar and a sack with a dollar sign on it, then I'd be suspicious. I still live in the 1950s!

But even if I was suspicious, I don't think telling a security guard is the right approach. I assume burglars use mole grips in breaking and entering, is that right? So, they're not using them to rob ASDA. The security guard's job is to stop people nicking stuff from his employers. He can't be held accountable for what ASDA customers do when they leave the store. You have as much responsibility in that regard as he does. If you genuinely thought a crime was going to be committed it's no more the responsibility of a security guard to report it to the police than it is yours.

And that's before we consider the whole judging a book by its cover thing. The two lads may well be exactly what you have them down as. But there's every chance they weren't. Your evidence is they have a set of mole grips and you don't like the look of them, whether they look shift or shabby or whatever. From that you've concluded, beyond all reasonable doubt, that they take a load of drugs and are going out robbing.

Mole grips are a legitimate work tool that a tradesman called out late on a job may well have in his pocket.

I look a bit, erm, unconventional shall we say, doesn't make me a criminal. When my brothers-in-law was in his teens/early 20s he had bad acne, he was pale as a ghost, there was more fat on a chip and he dressed like a tramp. He looked for all the world like a druggy. He'd never taken any drugs in his life and was a really nice kid.

None of that means you were wrong in your appraisal. But you weren't definitely right either. If we make snap judgements on everyone we'll be wrong a hell of a lot of the time. Having said that there's no reason at all why you shouldn't phone the police if you have concerns. I just think expecting a security guard to do something when no crime has been committed is asking more than he is capable of giving. He could end up following two lads around the shop who have come in to the store to buy their tea while a well presented career criminal robs a flat screen TV.

 

I'd phone Mr C for back up. I like him, hate any type of animal cruelty!

Long live the mole. The little blind, digging warriors!

Thiswonthelp

 

I enjoy reading your posts Jay as you tend to bring a fair balance to the board. I wasn't expecting the guard to go and rugby tackle them and boot them out but if I was the guard and someone approached me I'd at least acknowledge them and maybe have a scan on the stores CCTV not just laugh and ignore someone.

Your quite right in appearances too but I'm of an age where I'm pretty clued up in today's society, my pal who was with new also said he'd seen them loitering in the town centre earlier.

As for the mole grips, yes they are a pretty good tool to break into houses, my pal is a maintenance/joiner who gets called out to a lot of jobs where he sometimes as to force his way Into properties, he told me that if a lock on a door is a lock which sticks out slightly then using mole grips to force the lock to snap is a way of forcing an entry.

Maybe I'm way off with my presumptions......

 

Whatever the suspicion the security guard should be professional, thank you for your advice, and then proceed as he sees fit.

If he laughed at you please report him. Working for a supermarket at a certain level we rely on members of the public to inform us if someone is not carrying out the job they are paid to do. Being rude to a customer is an automatic disciplinary offense.

 

Must admit, that's no way to behave when someone approaches you whatever you're telling them. Poor form from the security guard.

 

I'm not sure what you wanted them to do. Are you saying that it looked like they'd stolen the mole grips in which case fair enough. Otherwise what do you expect store security to do if 2 scroats are walking around the shop?

 

Agreed, even if he then does nothing. Your bit is done in reporting your suspicion and they don't think it's anything to pursue.