After all there fans talk about boycotting the club after getting rid of the Bluebirds. What is your opinion of there fans who talked the talk but when it came to it were in the end told what to do by there owners. And they still have blue seats. All a little bit sell out for me.
At the end of the day, they're in the Premier League so who gives a ****? If we were gauranteed promotion to the Prem by wearing pink shirts, I'd go with it. If you look back at any clubs history (even Barnsley) they're littered with shirt changes. I quite like the chocolate and sky blue we used to play in.
That is spot on Mr Sim de Mont............however, try telling that to some of the dinosaurs on here Some people, especially older people, cannot accept any sort of change The image of Barnsley Football Club is an out dated fuddy duddy brand...............it needs a huge kick up the backside But to do this at Barnsley I think it would need a younger more dynamic group of directors The directors at Cardiff have looked at how to reach a wider audience and they have done a great job.........and thats before they got promoted .........come on you..................YORKSHIRE TYKES.............the home of Barnsley Football club
Dinosaurs ?? Says the man who can't get his head around someone "not frum Tarn" supporting the Reds. Pffft
Not sure wanting to remain playing in red is a refusal of change. It's more a sense of identity thats been passed down through many years and generations. I'd be more inclined to be daring with the away kit... and stick with it, rather than completely changing the colouring and style every single year. Dulwich Hamlets (who did get promoted on Saturday!) have a pink and blue quartered shirt... very dapper!
Now Yorkshire Tykes, no way I'd have that. Were Barnsley, only bit of Yorkshire I give a care about is Barnsley. Get rid of the florkies and we'll be fine. But surely stealing the identity of Wrexham hasn't gone down well there.
Name change is a step too far - the town is what people associate with. You wouldn't get Rotherham, Donny, Sheffield, Leeds etc supporting anyone bar the club that plays in their town. However, I totally agree about needing a young and dynamic board or at least just one progressive Marketing manager. I remember Leeds in the 70's started wearing sock tags and giving them to the kids after the game, booting signed plastic balls into the crowd, waving from the half-way-line etc. They employed a bloke called John Trevelyan to improve the club's standing and audience and although lots of old farts and fans of other clubs took the piss - it actually worked. Crowds went up from 20-odd thousand to an average of over 40,000 - mainly due to the influx of families and kids. BFC needs a blood-transfusion of marketing ideas if it is to survive and should not be happy with franchising all the business out to make their lives easier.
Quite a few of their fans have turned their backs, but they've been replaced with other supporters. I think it's quite sad what's happened down there. The identity of Cardiff City, the 'Bluebirds', was distinctive and part of the fabric of the club. I know loads of fans would take success at all costs and would happily see a total rebrand of a club in exchange for a season watching Bale skin their full backs, but for me identity means something.
Agree Samba. They stole the identity of a lower league Welsh side as the dragons and also there red shirt. When I think of a red shifted Welsh team I thought of Wrexham. Wonder what a Leeds fan would make of wearing red shirts and owners changing there name to rules. There would be outrage.
Oh **** off with the Yorkshire Tykes stuff will you! As for Cardiff shirt colour - Leeds changed their kit to all white when Don Revie took over. Having said that - I'd rather we stay with a red kit because that's the tradition, to swap to blue, which always seems the opposite colour in football (i.e. your main rivals play in it) wouldn't seem to work.
I will always support Barnsley Football Club, no matter what colour they wear BUT would be VERY unhappy if we changed from red, even if it was for one season.
I cant see any advantages in changing the colour of the shirts? So why change the colour of the shirts? The White Rose colour has already been grabbed by Leeds i.e. Leeds and their fans now regard themselves as the representative club of Yorkshire The board of directors at Barnsley need to consider how Barnsley can be the club of YORKSHIRE like Cardiff is now the club of Wales.
I think we just need to be the club of Barnsley. We represent the town. Leeds and their fans regard themselves as the club of Yorkshire because they are arrogant, and that's why everyone else in Yorkshire hates them. Just because they think it, doesn't make it so.
For your logic to actually work would mean that Wrexham (a team wearing red, with the dragon on the badge) have always been the 'club of Wales' and as such have enjoyed amazing success with hundreds of thousands of fans across the country. In reality they play in the conference and average around 3,000 fans.
have you actually looked at the badge on the Cardiff City shirt ?... It still has the Bluebird on it. Let me explain a little more. I live about 12 mikles from Cardiff, I settled here after my career in the Royal Air Force. I married a Welsh lass who I met at RAF Cranwell.My family in the Hoyland area are mostly gone now, but my Wifes are numerous thats why we stayed here. I get to as many Barnsley games as poss. BUT I like going to a football match and so over the years down here I have been to watch Cardiff a few times,Swansea and even Barry Town. Nothing better than a Footy match atmosphere. But to get back to the Cardiff City thing, yes many were appalled at the color change at the start of the season ...yet ST sales were not affected. They still chant "BLOOOOOOBIRDS..BLOOOBIRDS" loudly . Mate If a big money man was to come to Barnsley he could have them play in pink Borat Thongs for me...if it meant we would get success. Aye I would sell my soul to Santa for that...hmmm I amm dsyl...dlesy....dylse.... I cant spell propper.
Re: have you actually looked at the badge on the Cardiff City shirt ?... The thing is Dragon...........the directors of Cardiff would not risk the wrath of the fans if they could not see some positive benefits from those changes We need the same kind of bold couragous decisions from our directors at Barnsley. The net that Barnsley Football Club throws does not even cover the district of Barnsley e.g. there is a large population in the Dearne towns that dont seem to realise that Barnsley is their football club Barnsley needs to do more...........I dont know what that something would be because I'm not in that line of work.............but a blind man can see that Barnsley needs to do more
Re: have you actually looked at the badge on the Cardiff City shirt ?... I'll give some sort of explanation why I've (albeit reluctantly) accepted the colour change. For a number of years the club has been run poorly. Fraudulently some would say - myself included. After numerous winding-up orders, thanks Riddler, we managed to get a Malaysian lawyer, Dato Chan Tien Ghee, interested in investing. We came into his radar by chance. He'd written to numerous (some say ALL) football league clubs asking to take his son, a promising young player apparently, on trail. We were the only club to respond and he came here. Didn't make it but the seed had been sown. This guy happened to be the lawyer for the Berjeya Group, headed by his billionaire mate Tan Sri Vincent Tan - and he eventually persueded him to get involved. Between them, they were funding the club to the tune of £1.2m/month. TG has since left to persue "other interests" - rumour is that he's in the running to become the next Malaysian PM. Vincent Tan had promised to wipe existing debt (circa £50-60m) by converting the debt into equity and invest up to a total of £100m into the club. For that to happen, he attached conditions - one of which was to change our home strip into red, regarded as "lucky" in Asia he argued. There was uproar down here and, the next day he said that we'd play in blue - but the future plans of the club would be revised and that he'd be looking at alternatives. Basically, he called our bluff and I (like many) was of the opinion "better red than dead" because of the mess we were in. He reverted to his original plan and has invested heavily. From the palying squad to new training complex in progress, stadium expansion plans etc. He's also used our excellent acadamy staff to launch similar schemes in Malaysia - and the name "Cardiff City" sponsors every development league out there from the earliest age group to the eldest. The guests he's brought to our games include the current Malay PM through to the Sultan of Johor (I'd never heard of that either lol). He's got fingers in all sorts of pies in Asia and it would appear that some of his influencial (and richer!!) friends may be ready to join in the fun. Watch this space . And, btw, I'd like to point out that it's not a case of "success at any price" for me - the Premiership honestly doesn't interest me that much as you regularly have teams lining up against each other more interested in not losing rather than winning, more a case of being able to watch my club play at weekends. Without the change I don't think that would have been the case - and I certainly wasn't prepared to take the gamble. We have a new kit every year, this ones a little more radical - but I support the Club, not the colour.
