Cardiff court case over

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  1. Bluebird

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    ...for now anyway. Hammam been exposed as main man behind Langstons and accusations of fraud and money-laundering made against him.

    This case was proposed by Langstons to get a summary judgement against CCFC (basically saying that CCFC would have no defence if it were to go to full trial).

    Eye-witness reports:

    Summary from this morning

    "I was there from 10.45 till just before 1.00pm, it was mainly technical legal arguments about whether Langston knew about various changes/amendments to a contract in 2006. Mr. mole was very confident in his delivery and the judge 'appeared' to look uopn his agruments favourably with comments like....Sam appointed his brother Ned(?) to the board of the company in charge of the new stadium as his representative...ergo he must have known....

    There was a swiss fella called Tishauser(?) who was the agent for Langston but is no longer with the company who apparently liaised with pistol pete, both in person and in an exchange of emails...these appeared to show that Langston were happy with everything.

    It's been taken as read in the court that Langston = Sam Hammam. mr. mole said that Cardiff had made 8 separate points that Sam Hammam was acting for Langston and none had been challenged.

    He also said that if it went to trial 'we have a mountain of evidence' (in our favour) and would be very interested to see Langstons' evidence as they had not submitted ANY, Cardiffs was submitted on 10th december (previous court hearing date) Langston said they would review Cardiff evidence and submit their own but haven't as yet
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    And another:

    "My thoughts from today.

    Court started at 10.30am. I arrived around 12.15pm.

    The morning and early pm session consisted of the Club's Counsel making his submission to the judge.

    Langston's Counsel then responded to the club's submission and finished just before 4pm.

    The judge then said he would reserve judgement (fairly standard) and said he hoped to give his judgement "by the end of term". The journos then asked the court clerk what this meant and he explained that term ended on 19 March.

    The judgement could come before then, and he advised the journos to keep in touch with the either the parties solicitors or the listing officer.

    The tone of the judge towards City's Counsel was quite positive, whereas he was far more questioning of the Langston Counsel both yesterday and today.

    In his rebuttal, Langston Counsel attempted to make various legal arguments about the principles of waivers, variations, novations and terminations of legal documents. At various points, the judge interjected and questioned Counsel's arguments to which Counsel appeared unable to provide a robust (to coin a phrase) answer.

    City's Counsel seemed to suggest to the judge (based on precedent) that such applications for judgement could in fact be found in favour of the defendant in its entirety, but he was quick to point that he was not suggesting the judge do this, merely that he had that option.

    Based on my lay man's view of the arguments over the parts of the past two days that I was there for, the performance of the two Counsels (Langston's Counsel was not convincing in his rebuttal of City's
    submissions) and the comments made by the judge to both Counsels, it seemed to go well for the club.

    But you never know with the law!!"
     
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    That Tishauser is a right tight arsed Barsteward nt
     
  3. Gue

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    Judge to give the verdict next wednesday, just been on Real Radio nt
     
  4. Dan

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    judge should just remove cardiff from fa cup and lock ridsdale away as punishment in return cardiff city fc will be given 10 years to pay off the debt
     
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    And P. Riddy should be made to return the Snow Leopard that has been trained to perch on top of his head back to the wild.
     
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    Far far more importantly,,,

    ... who are the two players ate the bottom of your page?
     
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    IMO

    That'll be to set a trial date as we obviously DO have a defence.

    I've a sneaky feeling now that Hammam has been exposed as the guy behind Langston, he won't want to go to trial - he could be charged with fraud, money laundering or embezzlement if he did and admitted it or was proved to be part of it.

    If he denied it, there is documented evidence of members present at the signing of the new agreement who are now witnesses at the trial (they had to resign as directors of CCFC to become witnesses and not have a conflict of interest). If Hammam were to deny this agreement, he could be charged with perjury.

    It's a win/win, jail/jail situation as I see it, but will the Judge?

    Happy days.
     
  8. Gue

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    as ever the powers that be make a reyt palava over it all

    next wednesday now till a decision is made...so the fans of Cardiff have another wek of doubt, as do the players etc too of course. I know we face City in the semi's but I would not wish this on any team at all...@cept of course Man Utd and Sheffield Wednesday.
     
  9. Bluebird

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    RE: Far far more importantly,,,

    The Cardiff player is the legendary Robin Friday. The other is Luton keeper Milija Aleksic and the photo is circa 1977.

    Friday had been battered all day and after rounding the keeper, leaving him on his backside, he stuck 2 fingers up to him as the ball hit the net. Quality.
     
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    RE: Far far more importantly,,,

    Thank God It's Friday!!

    Dragnet - circa 1960

    Skinny legs ent he?
     

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