Charlie Brooker on the BNP

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  1. Stu

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    Stuppa, May 18, 2009
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    (clap)
     
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    There are extremists on both sides of the political spectrum, not just the right. The Guardian conveniently forget that.
     
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    Often the Guardian

    spouts even more crap than the BNP, which is saying something. Has to be the most smug and sanctimonious yet stupid paper going.
     
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    Could have been a useful article.

    Butthis sort ofsweeping generalisations and silly dismissal of the immigration problems we face just adds to the swell of frustration that the BNP are surfing in on.
     
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    Good stuff

    Trouble is, it's preaching to the converted.
     
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    RE: Good stuff

    wouldnt have thought there would be too many BNP supporting Guardian readers....waste of ink and paper..
     
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    RE: Good stuff

    I don’t think there are too many readers of the Guardian whatever their political allegiances. It’s a complete waste of paper and ink. I personally would not wipe my arse on it. /poo /poo
     
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    Why not?

    Decent reporting and opinion.

    Beats the Mail, Express and Torygraph any day. Only competitor is the Independent.
     
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    RE: Why not?

    I'm sure it's an excellent read if you subscribe to the Blairite, new labour agenda which the paper seems to champion. It certainly isnt in the same league as the Telegraph for content, opion, debate and the support of the average, working, hetro-sexual person who doesnt belong to a minority.
     
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    mmmm..

    I would consider my self "average, working, hetro-sexual person". The Torygraph does not meet my agenda.

    I'd also venture that the Guardian is pretty much anti-Blair's programme. But some contributers more than other.s It is a liberal paper after all.
     
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    RE: Why not?

    It doesn't "champion the Blairite cause" though.

    Best reporting along with The Independent and The Times.
     
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    RE: mmmm..

    Isnt Blairism and liberalism very close? You could not accuse him of being socialist in his views and policies. I would also say that the Telegraph may have been a conservative party once but not so these days.
     
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    To link WWII veterans to anti BNP rallies.

    Insulting to say the least.

    I'm certianly no BNP supporter however, My Grandfather also fought in WWII.

    He did not fight to allow Kosovans to beat up their girlfriends and have the police refuse to investigate because of "racial tensions"

    He did not fight to allow Albanians to not get deported despite repeatedly drink driving and breaking the rules of our country.


    He did fight to allow people to vote, and to vote for whoever they want to. Even the BNP if they choose to.


    the link he makes is insulting. He should be ashamed.

    But what more can you expect......the Guardian has to peddle it's own version of sensationalist cr@p to it's own audience to sell papers too.
     
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    But surely a vote for the BNP...

    is an insult to him and those who did not return?
     
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    Thats not what he says

    He doesn't link WW2 with anti-BNP rallies. He links what the allies did in WW2 (i.e. fighting fascism) with patriotism. And argues that the BNP are not more patriotic than other parties. By playing on people's fears, anxieties, and prejudices, they are simply another manifestation of the small-minded 'nationalist' parties you find the world over.
     
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    Equally so.

    But that doesn't lessen the insult of Brooker.

    Or the insult of other modern mainstream politicians who fail to address the issues that are leading to the rise of the BNP.

    What if the BNP get in.? (unlikely I know, but I bet they said that about Hitler in 1930). Failure to address their supporters concerns and instead just call them all "stupid facists" would be an even bigger crime. If that happened the sacrifices of all those soliders have definately have all been in vain.
     
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    The Soldiers of WWII were not fighting against a political ideology

    The enemy could have been Germany or France or Russia - it was irrelevant

    They were fighting for King and Country - just the same as in 1914
     
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    The Soviets were...

    at least, that's what the political officers would have said.

    The British were defending their soil and their way of life. So in a way, it was a political fight.
     
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    RE: The Soviets were...

    The soviets would have been shot if they didn't fight.

    So would the brits to be fair. - or at least sent to prison.

    it's difficult to say what my grandad or Tomski Petrovovacvich's grandad and grandma were fighting for to be fair..
     
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