Ched Evans: Convicted rapist and footballer issues apology

Lets hope it doesnt take as long for Mr Evans to be cleared......

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wrongly-hanged-hanratty-is-found-innocent-1285402.html

They have been known to get it wrong...

 

Ahh a 'heartfelt' apology issued after yet another club turns him down. Its a bit like a little kid when their mam pushes them forward say 'come on what do we say'

 

The press have made convicted rapist his new name. You never hear him mentioned without that in front. Wouldn't be a bad thing if one rule fit all so alcholic woman beater Gazza, racist Luis Suarez etc.

 

Sick of hearing about this now. Just let them both get on with it.

 

just had a look on the website that is there to support evans and promote an appeal.

http://chedevans.com/the-trial

if what they have put on this web site is true then its no wonder he hasnt appologised..

the entire conviction was apparently got on her inability to consent.

the cctv footage of her walking in and out of the hotel doesnt portray someone incapable of giving consent to anything,but,maybe some will see things differently..It also seems strange that she was able to consent to the bloke that was found not guilty.

 

But it doesn't show she was sober does it? 30 seconds of someone walking filmed at a frame every second doesn't demonstrate anything. I'm sure there have been times when I've been absolutely off my face that I've managed to walk in a straight line for 20 yards without decking it.

The hotel receptionist testified that she was off her head.

 

the website states that she was 2.5 times the legal drink drive limit after this was determined from her own evidence on what she drunk that night...there isnt anything that says she was off her face.

 

Something really puzzling me, is why would you financially support something that details the fact that your daughter's boyfriend had (unlawful) sex with a girl he hadn't met until he conned his way into a hotel room she was already in? Baffling.

 

http://chedevans.com/the-trial

what they are arguing is that his mate was found not guilty and he was and how could she be coherant enough to consent to one and not the other?

 

How sincere and nothing to do with him being turned down by another club.

 

"Gavin Burrough, formerly a night receptionist at the Premier Inn, Rhuddlan, told Caernarfon crown court that Wales footballer Ched Evans, 23, had asked for a key to the room during the early hours of a Bank Holiday Monday.

Shortly before that, Port Vale footballer Clayton McDonald, also 23, had arrived in a taxi with an “extremely drunk” woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons.

Both men deny raping the 19-year-old. Mr Burrough told the jury he was working on reception on the night of the alleged rape.

At around 4am, on Monday May 30, 2011 he saw a taxi pull out and a man, later identified as McDonald, and a woman get out. He said: “She was extremely drunk. She was not very steady on her feet. She had a blank expression.”

 

i cant disagree with you,he had a girlfriend and shouldnt have been there in the first place,,but,that isnt what he was on trial for,i'm just struggling to work out how he got convicted and his mate didnt,surely if they were both having sex with her then they're both guilty?

 

What a strange thing to say, especially if he is guilty. You seem to have made your mind up that he is innocent.

 

Better to read the full court transcript of the appeal that was refused than Evan's one sided propaganda / website.

https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-ched-evans-chedwyn-evans

 

Here's the law of rape summarised as a flow chart.

1. Did the victim explicitly consent or act in a way that could reasonably be interpreted as consent?

If yes, go to step 3. If no, go to step 2.

2. Did the Accused believe the victim was consenting?

If yes, go to step 3. If no, it's rape.

3. Given that the victim consented (or appeared to consent) was the victim actually capable of giving informed consent?

If yes, not guilty. If no, go to step 4.

4. Did the Accused have a reasonable belief that the victim was giving informed consent?

If yes, not guilty. If no, it's rape.

Question 3 explains the different verdicts - McDonald had been with her all night and her conduct during the night led to him having a reasonable belief she consented to sex with him. Evans on the other hand, just turned up to a hotel to find her drunk in the room. Whether he actually believed she was consenting or not is irrelevant, it's whether a reasonable man in his position would have believed that she was giving informed consent.

 

https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-ched-evans-chedwyn-evans

Here's some actual facts not a dodgy website paid for by a rapists father in law that's currently being investigated for its legalty.

 

The applicant accepted that he had booked the hotel room which was later used by McDonald. That was the point. It was for McDonald and another friend to stay -- not a place for them to take girls. He intended to have a night out with his male friends; he was not looking for girls. He admitted that he had lied to the night porter to obtain a key card. He did so because he was aware of the policy in the hotel about multiple occupation of rooms and thought he might be denied entry. When he arrived at the room it was immediately apparent to him that McDonald and the complainant were engaged in enthusiastic consensual sex. When she was asked if the applicant could join in, the complainant clearly replied "Yes". McDonald stopped. The complainant asked the applicant to perform oral sex on her. He did so and then they had sexual intercourse. Throughout all the activities with him she was enthusiastic, wide awake and she consented to everything that happened. He agreed that he had left the hotel using the fire exit.

this straight from the crimeline website in the link above

 

That bit is reporting Evans' version of events.

 

I'm a touch suspicious over these apparent death threats and rape threats that Oldham's board have apparently received, which caused them to pull out of the deal. I would have thought that the petition and protests by their fanbase and the threat of losing most of their sponsorship money would have been the real reason, but these apparent threats are convenient, because it allows them to play the victim without having to admit that what they were doing went against the morals of their supporters, both on the terraces and financially.

I say 'apparent' because if anybody made these threats to me, even if I thought there wasn't much substance behind them, I would certainly be asking the police to track down the culprits and bring them to question. As it stands, the Greater Manchester Police have offered to help, but so far nobody from Oldham has made a complaint to them. Surely the police would be the first step before the papers in a situation lke this?

I worked for a company in London who received a bomb threat through the post once. We had an idea where it came from and that it wasn't serious, but it was escalatedto the police nevertheless.