Chuffed about Obama.

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Of course there'sall the fuss about him being the first black president and all the associated implications butI don't think that's the most important thing,you just get the feeling he's the best bloke to take the job for a long time. </p>

Hopefully this is the start of a new relationship between the USA and the rest of the world.</p>

 

Lucid and well thought out post

Frightening.

 

I'll tell thee summat else an'all.

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There's a lot of talk about a few African countriesbeing the next China as far as manufacturing goes. I've been a bit sceptical meself, very different people, but if anyone's going to help it along Obama will. Good for Africa, good for us.</p>

 

I'm glad Obama won it, but, as with all American elections......

they are fought with very little emphasis on policies, I've followed it pretty closely and I'm still not clear where either candidate stood on the fundamental problems that blight our world, Obama said on many rallies that he would bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan, not a chance, he stated that the wealth of America will be more evenly spread around it's people, well, the people that have backed him financially will have a bigger say on that matter, all that said, McCain would have been an outright disaster not for just the Americans but for everyone around the world, the idea of America policing the world by brute force appeals to him, with utter disregard for the many troops dying daily.
At least Obama can really start afresh, where as McCain would have been a continuation of bullyboy politics.

 

Erudite as well nt

 

RE: I'm glad Obama won it, but, as with all American elections......

Obama said he would have a timetable in place, to have the Troops out of Iraq around the end of next year. Thats in his manifesto , coupled with the fact that the Iraqi government wants them out, means that I suspect he will deliver on this, otherwise he is gonna look a bit of a fool as it was one of the major pillars of his campaign. As for Afghanistan I don't think he has even mentioned getting the troops out but I stand to be corrected.</p>

I agree withe the redistribution of wealth plan , the rich bods who have backed him may not be overly keen on that idea, though it depends on how he goes about it.
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No it's me that stands corrected, the Afghanistan campaign will continue.....

the Iraq situation is a real sticky wicket for Obama, after all the deaths the Yanks have incurred they'd better have something to show for it and as I see it the are years away from that, and it will be years before we and the Yanks depart that country.

 

And you think the UK differs in what way precisely? Bearing in mind the winners are normally those that the Sun Newspaper decides to support.

Politicians are the same the world over. There is barely a straight committed honest answer from any of them, their answers are laced with ambiguity and spin, and the very few honest ones are soon pushed out of public view. The major difference from Country to Country is how obvious the levels of corruption are depending on how 'democratic' and moral the country is pretending to be.

There are very few voters that switch parties depending on policy, victory tends to come down to lethargy on the voters part. So at the next general election the Conservative party will be hoping that Labour voters can't be arsed to support them because they've had enough and the Conservative voters who have abstained for so long due to how poor the party has been will get off their arses.

 

RE: I'm glad Obama won it, but, as with all American elections......

the same rich bods are some of the same people who funded his campaign.

 

Somebody got up on the wrong side of town.

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Mr grumpy trousers.</p>

 

I think I know what the candidates stood for

Obama - Change, change and more change. I think he must be a numismatist.

McCain - giving Joe the plumber more money.

 

soz. I'm currently revelling in the various banks reaction to being bailed out using our money and how they're putting interest rates up as a special reward to us. I think it's lovely. I'm quite pleased we've saved that industry with 'special terms and conditions' which Brown seems to have forgotten to enforce.

Cnuts the lot of them.

That said. I'm a new Dad and everything, so from a personal point of view I couldn't be happier at the moment. Plus, regardless of who is manager, were not in the relegation zone at the moment.

 

Thats about right. nt

 

Well, congratulations.

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The newly nationalised banks will be offering new lending to the building trade in the new year. Wimpey shares up 110% in 7 days. </p>

I don't waste a single opportunity to tell em it's all their fault.</p>

 

They won't need to build more homes, the newly nationalised banks are aggressively repossessing them as quickly as they can, to increase their asset bases.

Still, we're leading the world on talking B*ll*cks about who's done what wrong and how we're fixing it. Brown is convincing the rich arab nations to invest in securing the worlds' economic system. Really Gordon, you don't by any chance think that's how the world of economics works anyway? UK business going to the wall, overseas investors asset strip them, it just so happens that the very few nations capable of stripping our assets now are the ones who were pricing the oil.

It's beyond belief what's coming out of his mouth at the moment. "And that's why it's responsible for us to increase borrowing and spending, in order to stabilise economy, which is definitely not our fault and that". Is it responsible Gordon or is it inevitable?

 

okay. I'm done on politics today. I sound like a tw@t.

Still drinking out my mug btw.

 

Boo ! Rubbish !! Gerroff !!!

What have you done with the real IOWT?

 

You're right Loko. Obviously he had massive supporters and sponsorship also, but he appealed to the nation to send whatever they could to support the campaign. Like Children in Need, but rather then spending on the needy, you spend it on marketing.

 

Gaz is my ghost writer at the moment as he's fogotten his username on here. He's emailing me this ****.