Come on then, lets have it!

Couldn't make it saturday so have spoken to lads who went and read the reports - the ones down here are generally biased in our favour (much the same as in every other area of the country), but they suggest we should have come away with the points and the stats would seem to back them up.

Dave Jones doesn't normally criticise refs so his outburst is very unusual. He's a tight git and doesn't like having to shell out on fines and keeps quiet.

I hear Steve McPhail had a good game. Typical, I don't miss many games and he was bound to have a good one sometime, still won't believe it until I've seen it with my own eyes though.

RF anf JFH were out of sorts by all accounts which is surprising as they have been finding a bit of form/fitness of late.

Anyway, obviously we should have walked it and had a nailed-on pen denied by a cheating, incompetent ref but doubtless you'll disagree (hidebehindsofa)

 

A draw was a very fair result for both sides. nt

 

If Jones thinks he was hard done by, then Davey and the management team did themselves proud by keeping there mouth shut. Both teams should have had a penalty, so not sure what he is moaning about. (guess the pressure must be getting to him)

Barnsley never got anything from the ref or linesman throughout the game. Three quick bookings for McCann, Howard and JCR were hard done by. Ref seemed to want to protect the 'BIG' names of Cardiff. Bottled it when McPhail should have walked.

JFH must be rubbing his hands picking up the wage at Cardiff. Spent more time on the floor, and hugging the ref trying to get players booked.

If the game went on for another 5 minutes think Barnsley would have grabbed a second.

 

Fowler missed two sharp chances which on another day he'll score-Hasselbank was awful-he fell to the ground at the slightest challenge and was continually chelping at the ref -at one point he had his arm around Dowd's shoulder muttering sweet nothings in his ear-I hope you don't pay him very much -oh he did score though with a little help from our 2 centrebacks.</p>

a draw was a fair result-Parry looked good when he came on-McPhail played OK-we should have man marked him I think-Sinclair was marked out of the game by McCann and tired towards the end-and is that really grey hair on your right back or is it dyed??</p>

 

What's the fuss with McPhail, what did he do to warrant being sent off? Didn't think mincing was a sending off offence - even if it is justified.

Our grey-haired full back, Kevin McNaughton, is 24 believe it or not. Came as a surprise to me as well!

 

Draw was a fair result over the 90 minutes. </p>

Your lot played the better football at times and had the edge on clear cut chances. But they need putting away. Fowler had a few opportunities which if he gets the same in another gamehe won't miss again.</p>

Ledleyhad a quiet game. If we give players like Sinclair and McPhail that same sort of room we did on Saturday then we'll pay for it.</p>

Definite penalty turned down for Cradiff, though I thought the ref played on because it looked like you'd get a chance on goal.</p>

McPhail should've walked. On a booking and react like he did and any other ref any other game would've sent him.</p>

 

First yellow was for running towards the east stand, and winding the crowd up. Totally justified. (Jones commented that he did it in front of the away fans......... eeerrr McPhail was on the halfway line!).
Second yellow would have been for arguing with the ref.

 

he'd got one yellow-can't remeber for what-then bad tackle? ref calls him over reaches for pocket-remembers he used to play for Leeds and he's booked him already-hand away from pocket-telling off for Macca-should have gone

 

Good game between two good teams and a fair result

It would've been a lot better had we had competant officials on the park . After he'd sent Jones to the stands , I got the impression that the referee didn't have the bottle to give another decision against Cardiff (the bookings of Kozluk & JCR , alongside the failure to send off McPhail , for example) . It was reaching ridiculous proportions . So much so that he got a minute's standing ovation when he finally awarded a free kick to Barnsley .
It was a good test for us against opposition who will probably be challenging at the right end of the table in May . I felt we passed the test . As yet , we're not firing on all cylinders (ie. 100% commitment from the strikers , without looking too dangerous) , but when we do I'm very optimistic about the future .

 

Story of our season to date, playing reasonably well and missing chances. RF and JFH have been getting sharper as they get more games under their belts and we hope to reap the benefits soon - before it's too late.

Ledley and Sinclair have been our best players all season so for them to both be quiet is unusual and a good reflection on yourselves.

Chance on goal? With Mcphail on the ball. Don't think so...

 

I just wonder if players like Fowler and JFH are motivated enough when things get sticky for them in this league to knuckle down and battle. Fowler has the obvious class. Some of his movement and first time lay offs were exceptional. Jimmy just seemed like he was there to moan. Mind, one header, one goal.</p>

Can't make my mind up if Cardiff had a quiet day or whether we battled defensively to nulify the majority of the threat. Still too early in the season for definitive conclusions about either side.</p>

 

RE: Good game between two good teams and a fair result

Hiya Kev mate. Glad you enjoyed it and just think, it could have been a lot worse - it could have been Mark Clattenburg in charge! I didn't know the circumstances re: McPhail but can't believe that a ref of Dowds standing can bottle the decision - surely that's why he's a "Premier" ref.

Quite obviously you're having a much better season than last year and, even as an outsider, you can sense the optimism on here. As for ourselves, I think we'll flirt with the play-offs but ultimately fall just short.

At the end of the day, a point away from home is good. It's our losing at home to dross that's costing us at the moment but surely that can't last. Cross fingers anyway. Haven't won at home since March!

 

Up until the last few weeks, I've thought that RF was on the gravy train whilst Jimmy has been trying his socks off. Jimmys fitness level was better than Fowlers - he'd spent pre-season at Chelsea whereas RF Had been on holidays in Portugal, USA and Australia!

As his fitness is improving, Fowlers getting better and better - and there's clearly a lot more to come. As you say, someof his movement and touch are a joy to watch. It'll get better when our players get used to his speed of thought - if they can that is.

I can confirm that Jimmy does like a moan

 

In all honesty , Jeff

The fact that you have forwards and wide men of the calibre of Fowler , JFH , MacLean , Thompson , Ledley , Parry & Sinclair should ensure you're in the play-offs at least.
I was a bit surprised at Dave Jones . Usually he's a pretty cool customer , but his over reaction to the penalty decision & his reluctance to give Barnsley any credit whatsoever after the game , gave the impression of a manager under pressure .
A win tomorrow night at Bramall Lane is well within your capabilities .

 

Overall I think a draw was fair.

It was a fairly even game, we had a 15-20 minute period camped in the Cardiff half and needed to make that pressure count which we didn't. then Cardiff had a spell and again couldn't make it count but apart from 1 or 2 occasions we were restricting you to shots from outside the area.
Linesman in 1st half made some atrocious decisions flagging Odejaye offside when he was clearly on. 2 of the fouls that led to bookings were actually excellent tackles.
McPhail was already on a booking, I didn't see why, it was just after you scored and before play restarted, McPhail was on half way line when the goal was scored, I since heard it was for gestures made to the home fans. He then made a tackle that, in itself, was worthy of a booking, and when the ref gave the free kick he started moaning, the ref called him over and bottled it, and I'd say the same for one of our players, it annoys me when players are let off a booking purely because they've already been booked - if it's a bookable offence then that's what it should be, and if they've previously been booked then they are off, simple as. Oh, and not long before that he barged into Mostto when he was going to collect the ball for a throw in.
I laughed at Jones, because from where I was it didn't even look a penalty, but he can have no complaints if he's sent to the stands for an outburst like that, whether he was right about the incident or not.
JFH was throwing himself to the ground every opportunity.

 

Know what you're sayiing

...but theres still a lot of big teams up there and the likes of Charlton, Watford, WBA, Wolves, Sheff Utd will be there come the end of the season. We can do it obviously, the win at WBA suggets to me that we can beat anyone in this division.

With RF and JFH up front, the opposition are undoubtedly raising thier game to overshadow the "superstars". And theres no way that they'll play the whole season either. We're lacking a central midfielder with Ricci Scimeca injured and the same with Darren Purse at centre half.

Dave Jones' reaction surprised me as well, he's not normally like that. But I honestly don't think he's under any pressure at all - PR and the other directors go along with everything he does/says and never criticise. Even our fans - who have been known to vent their feelings in the past, believe it or not - have given him a very easy ride.

That's despite our post-Christmas surrender last year and not winning, in fact losing all but 2, of our home games since March!

Hope we can beat Sheff Utd tomorrow and I've no doubt you can beat Brizzle City. They've started well and put points on the board but in reality have played no-one of note.

 

It looks like Ferenczi will be missing

Both for tomorrow night and Saturday's game at Charlton . Odejayi , Mostto & Christiensen must step up to the plate and start putting the ball into the net . All strikers are eventually judged on the number of goals they score . If one , or more , of them can start scoring , then I feel we're in for a far better season than last.

 

Why does that old black man keep falling over?

Has he got some kind of degenerative nervous desease?

 

I thought we had one good penalty should and also a blatant handball from a corner. Can’t remember the Cardiff player but if you raise your hands above your head while jumping for the ball it’s a penalty and maybe even a booking or sending off. It was similar to the decision we got on the opening day of the season for the penalty against Coventry.

The Cardiff decision was touch and go. Howard did take some of the ball but at the same time he got the player as well. As he got the some of the ball I think a penalty would have been harsh.

I never knew Hasslebank had two jobs on Saturdays. He was the ref and a player as he basically did more as a ref than he did during the game. The time when Howard was fouled and then Hasslebank flipped himself over after picking up the loose ball was awful.

A stronger ref than his pal from Premier League days should have done something about it rather than agree with the moaning lovely person every time.

I still remember the interview on radio dee daa the day before the play off final when McPhail said he’d love to stay and sign a new contract. Only to say once he signed for Cardiff that he made his decision to leave well before then.

 

Wouldn't want JFH in our team

Spends the whole time berating his team mates or trying to con the ref. Not good for team spirit to have someone who clearly thinks everything that goes wrong is someone elses fault.