Come on then...........where are all you pillocks that said Gordon Brown is better than Blair

You know things are really really bad when Boris Johnson wins an election
I don't know whether to laugh or cry :'( :'( :'(

 

RE: Worst results for over 40 Years

Why? This is his legacy

 

Talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs........HELL FIRE

We let the Tory press kick Blair out because they knew while he was there the Cons would never ever win anything

Tony Blair was a fantastic PM.........he has turned this country round. We are all richer, and we all have better funded services. OK theres a few things I don't agree with such as the high level of immigration but overall he did a great job
And don't start with Iraq !!!
Saddam invaded two countries and he actually used WMD on his own people
So Tony Blairs decision to invade Irag was the right one.......and history will show this
Only problem with Iraq is that the war was easy for the Americans to win but after they had won the war they didn't know what to do with the country.......hence the current chaos. But then again this is slowly getting better
Unfortunatly Britain got tarred with the same brush

But moving on...........we have now got Gordon Brown..........the guy that undermined Tony Blair while he was PM........who the hell wants to vote for Gordon Brown? I know I don't. Rather have an arm off than vote Conservative but while Brown is there I can't vote Labour.........so the only alternative (and this makes me feel sick) is the Lib Dems

 

RE: Talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs........HELL FIRE

The Great Charlatan was handed a revived economy on a plate. Blair then overspent on the KPMGs of this world, increasing the Civil Service by over 100,000 (who we have to pay for), lied re. Iraq (and just about everything), and leaves when we are in all probability in a worse fiscal state than when Callaghan was booted out. Don't blame it all on Brown, the overspending is at Blair's door, and Brown has been left with the crap to clear up.

 

Who the hell wants to vote for Gordon Brown?

None of us around here can directly vote for him - no more so than we could vote for Mayor of London.

 

overspending is at Blair's door.........???

that can't be right..............Blair was not allowed to look at the budgets.........we heard about the budgets at the same time as Blair did
Brown was responsible for the budgets.............and he did a great job as chancellor.........BUT, he just isn't a Prime Minister
But then again the Cabbage Patch Eton kid is not either...........so who do we vote for now
Out of the 3, cLegg-over looks the best leader

 

Unless I'm missing something, I wouldn't read too much into local elections

As far as I can see, party politics barely come into the suitability of a councillor. Looking through my local leaflets, the campaign was fought over coastal erosion, the building of a bridge and the clearing up of our streets. Local issues, no party politics. A few of the big party councillors lost their seats over allegations that the closing of local schools was influenced by their hands being in developers pockets. A result down to the character and reputation of individuals, no party politics. As I've mentioned before on here, I only had Labour and Conservative candidates to vote for so there's no chance the result would reflect my own voting tendancies. The Tories won the seat in my area which if were down to party politics, I personally would view as being the worst result possible. But I don't mind. They're just middle aged men who are going to make decisions on local issues. Even when you consider their allegiance, the pros and cons of a Tory council working with a Labour government are muddy. Is it good that they offer a balance to decision making? Or is it bad that they're in conflict and won't work well together? Who knows. So to sum up, I can't see that Brown and Cameron are deciding factors in this result. Sure, they've influenced voters, but the swings could be due to so many other issues. Wait until the general elections to get the full picture.

By the way, there are alternatives to the "big three" you know.

 

RE: Unless I'm missing something, I wouldn't read too much into local elections

Labour will poll at least 10% more at a General Election. Always have done historically. There is also a tendency for the government of the day to get slappings at local elections.