Conor hourihane

Conor hourihane:
"I think if the club had come to us in the summer, before the Championship started, a lot of us probably would have signed a contract. But they didn't."
"I would have signed a long-term contract last summer but nothing was on the table. "

Mark Roberts likes this tweet:
"Let's just make this clear to all Barnsley fans. Robbo wanted to stay, Barnsley didn't offer him a new contract.... what would you do?"

Josh scowens dad tweets this:
"keep on saying it maybe the higher powers that be will see what he's really worth"
"it's time to put ya money where ya mouth is"

There seems to be a bit of a pattern emerging doesn't there and it doesn't sit nicely when that pattern is about a club with millions sat in the bank

 

"The transfer income will not be used to subsidise wage levels outside of the normal income streams of the club"

 

Ground hog day and this scorched earth policy only leads one way. League one.

 

That's fair enough, but I've been reliably informed that even if we had quadrupled Marc Roberts's wages, he would still have been well within the club's wage structure.

 

As I've posted elsewhere, it does not matter. We HAD to sell him now as The Plan says that at 30 he's worth nowt

 

Way I look at it with the millions we get from being in the championship plus the millions we've amassed in transfers will enable us to get the cream of the crop of upcoming talent, the vast majority of prem/champ teams are not interested in this type of player, we are competing against league 1 & 2 and Scottish prem teams I get the debate about a fire sale every window but unless we get a backer to take us to the next level in terms of doubling trebling a good players wage with out bankrupting the club I cannot see the situation changing we are well and truly victims of our own success over the last 18 months or so,

 

The worrying thing about 'the plan's is that it mentions signing players cheap, it mentions selling them for money but it forgets to mention improving our team and climbing up the pyramid.

 

You're making things sound so simplified though. It doesn't matter how much we could offer, almost every other club in the Championship could offer much more

I'm sure we could have more than quadrupled Robbo's wages, but Birmingham could still have come in with more. Same goes with the other players we've lost - we simply cannot compete wage-wise

 

What is the point in getting the best young players only to immediately sell them?

If we are not reinvesting the money on a higher quality (and therefore more expensive) young player then is there any difference between signing a **** footballer and selling him immediately and signing a brilliant one and selling him immediately? If the money is never to be seen again then really there is no difference and therefore the plan is pointless

 

Difficult to convince more people to buy season tickets and grow the fan base.

 

Well in 3 years we've been:
11th in League One
6th in League One
14th in the Championship

It's always disappointing to lose players of course, but we've made some encouraging signings so let's see how this season go. There's no reason to say we can't do better than last year

 

The Plan has resulted in the clubs highest league position for 15 years and earned the club substantial profit in the meantime.

I'm not sure The Plan allows us to progress much further in terms of league position however.

 

The money is being seen again - where exactly do you think the money for the 5 signings so far this summer has come from? We've no doubt already spent more money this summer than last; 2 summers ago when we were in League 1 we barely spent a penny on transfers because we had no money!

And the point of signing the best young players is to improve the team, and if they are good other teams will want to sign them thus eventually bring in money for the club. Hourihane is the best example of this

 

The problems started when we went from bottom of division 1, to promotion in 5 months. Were those players good enough to stay up? If we gave them all improved extended contracts and we went down, then what?

The majority on this board thought we'd do well to stay up last season, so maybe club took the same view and decided not to risk extended contracts in case we went down.

It will be a test of the system we have and the scouting and coaching. I'm hopeful we'll all be surprised, and if we stay up (or go down) the club will be financially sorted either way.

/positivity

 

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Hourihane is the best example of appalling management of player contracts. I repeat again "I think if the club had come to us in the summer, before the Championship started, a lot of us probably would have signed a contract. But they didn't."
"I would have signed a long-term contract last summer but nothing was on the table. "
The result of that mismanagement of his contract is that he left for significantly less than we could and should have got for him and at a time which destabilised the side and derailed our promotion push too. Failure to manage his contract correctly cost us the chance to compete for a windfall well over £100m. I see that as an abject failure not a success

 

It's no secret that the club has made errors on this front.

Gauthier says he intends to sit down with Yiadom this week. I get the impression though that since his arrival he's been instructed to deal solely with transfers. The Roberts deal has been in the pipeline since prior to his arrival so I'm not sure there was much more we could have done on that front.

I'm still a little perplexed as to why we've not heard anything regarding Linton Brown's departure, I'm sure that hasn't helped any situation.

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People just enjoy it for Christs sake ha. 14th in the Champ? At least now we have a plan of some sort. Remember the Dark Old Days of the Don??

 

We had a plan then. Don't spend £1 when 1p will do

 

I fully understand the plan & strategy that we're on with but I do think there's got to be exceptions.

Around your flair players & young talents who you bring in to try & develop in to multi-million pound players I think you need a couple in the mould of Roberts & Scowen, players who are always 7 out of 10 types, who give their all every game & are standard setters in the dressing room.

These types are hard to replace.

Maybe the clubs got it right but not everyone can do a Southampton & keep losing players without suffering on the pitch.

 

Don was an employee of the same owner and key decision maker as we do now. So were all the chairmen and ceo's who we blame