Could anyone on here dispute the Hillsborough verdict ?

Has anyone on here got an alternate point of view..........say, that the jury got the Hillsborough verdict wrong?

I'm not saying that they did get that particular verdict wrong.............but in this era of people that just blindly follow the view point of the general media is anyone on here brave enough to openly say.....'yes I think they got it wrong'?

Because I don't think there are many left......if any.

This message board is increasingly being dominated by what can only be described as brain dead sheep.
Individual points of view on here are being overshadowed by people that are trying to propagate a culture of bullying - and its from a category of people that are frightened to step out of line because of fear of intimidation from others.

Any points of view will be welcome.

 

Lets not forget what the witch of downing street...thatcher ( spits to floor ) and her tory party lap dogs ..role in all this was.....the cover ups that her and her party over saw and her party are still hiding are scandalous......peadophilia....miners strike to throw another two subjects out there not to mention all the other stuff tax evading...and yet people on here actually vote for the tory scum.....like my old man use to say God bless him the only good tory is a dead one....the system is corupt and we yes we the people allow them to get away with it......

 

I live next door to a woman who has investigated the police for this enquiry, thats her job. She's had to live in Warrington for the last 2 years, her relationship has suffered and they have split up, she has shown signs of stress due to the pressure she has been under. I can guarantee that anyone on this case has been 100% behind finding the truth and trying to set the record straight.

I'm not a sheep, I will in the main only comment on anything serious on this page if I have a thorough understanding of the subject matter. Because your views are so obscure YN, that means people will oppose your views, that doesn't make them sheep per se, it just means you are so far off that you alienate yourself.

Maybe the world is becoming more left, I am but thats because I have an ingrained thought process to help and support people and be empathetic to others. In the case of your last post, I don't even feel that, you sound like a bitter, self centred person who can't even see when is the right time to post what was always going to be a confrontational posting.

Theres my view but it will go in one ear and out the other and feed the preconceived view in your bonce, so I'm still not sure why I'm responding to you.

 

You put a point of view up on the BBS you are going to get a response agreeing or not . You deliberately post something you know will be controversial you are going to get a lot of people disagreeing with you . The problem comes from people who think their views are beyond criticism no matter how ridiculous, insensitive and controversial, they will always think they are being bullied because the idea that they are wrong is not something they understand or would even contemplate

 

Your wind ups are ****. Bring back Hemsy.

 

I don't feel qualified to question the verdicts.

Unlike the jurors, I am not in the position of having heard ALL, yes ALL, the evidence, from all sides, before making the decision.

As such, given the jury was made up of ordinary folk with normal, reasonable thought processes, I don't imagine it likely I'd have disagreed on many of their findings given thirteen of fourteen questions were decided unanimously. Including exonerating the fans of any contributory factor, and laying the blame of the deaths squarely at the the hands of the police, ambulance service and Sheffield Wednesday.

The only thing that was not unanimous was the fact that they were unlawfully killed. That was a tough case to prove after 27 years I would imagine as a serious neglect of duty needed to be proven, and that it was gross negligence. Remember, they unanimously decided the blame was on the police and not at all on the fans - yet you feel qualified to question it.

What detailed facts are you armed with to do so nudger?

 

No would of course be the short answer.

However if I took the post seriously. The role and complicity in the cover up of the Thatcher government and the right wing press should also be examined and the truth about the lies perpetrated by them examined and action brought against any guilty parties for being accomplices after the fact or whatever the legal term is.

 

This is a bit like

fishing in a pond where somebody has already caught most of the fish!

 

Re: This is a bit like

Shock jockey.


Getting beyond boring now.

 

The above (which I largely agree with) is one good reason why we should stay in Europe because Europe can provide a moderating influence on National governments and maybe stop some of the more extreme policies of the right or left.

 

I can't

but then again I wasn't there, and the only information I can use to form a judgement is that provided by the media, none of which I think you can completely trust (in particular the Sun).

However, from what I have learned over the years from an arguably more trustworthy source (the BBC) is that there isn't much evidence of misbehaviour by the Liverpool fans (for sure some may have been drunk, but that's not a crime), but there is evidence of mistakes made by the Police on the day and of the cover-up which has gone on for 27 years.

Pretty much the same applies to Orgreave.

 

Just because you can disagree with something, doesn't mean you should.

 

Oh and just as an after thought...using the Hillsborough verdict to perpetuate your own agenda against people on a public message board is pretty low.

 

I could dispute it.

I could also say that the world is flat, definitely flat, flat as a pancake.

But then, someone will be able to use evidence that what I say is wrong.

Same has happened with Hillsbrough. Evidence has been found to prove that the Police were wrong and that the fans were unlawfully killed due to the Police and other parties not doing their job properly. It was also proved that fans were not in any way to blame.

You can argue with that but you will always lose unless you can come up with evidence to support your point of view.

Now, how about you tell us your opinion on the verdict.

 

What a load of waffle.

 

People posting their opinion without any evidence and mostly unpopular , for everyone to see and rammed in their face then are crying when people post their opinions and reasons start crying bullies because theres more posts and evidence etc against them .
Shock horror.