Cricket post Andrew Gale, Can't have long left

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Surely he can't stay for much after this season.

    Getting beat again. He's just been given the top job without leaving the club to get the experience.

    Heard someone say, maybe whilst listening last season to the matches that it's not a role for someone with ties to the club. That's why it was so good when the club got Gillespie.

    Looking at the team it looks awful. Yes, international call ups but that's no excuse for a county like Yorkshire. Essex had their big two batsmen balled up.
     
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    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    As subtle as a brick.
     
  3. Wat

    Watcher_Of_The_Skies Well-Known Member

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    Gillespie was so successful because he had excellent players in form. Currently Yorkshire in the batting department are poor and to be fair were under Gillespie in his last season. I'm pretty sure when Yorkshire were winning there was not much batting coaching coming from Gillespie.

    Lythe and Lees have been out of sorts for a long time but were largely saved by the middle order last year, especially Bresnan who was exceptional. That bend but don't break batting line-up this year has broken. Frankly nothing to do with Gale. Anyone could have been in charge and they'd still be getting out cheaply.
     
  4. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Think someones got to take the stick for this. Losing in two days to Essex in Scarborough?

    If Recruitments a problem then does Moxon need looking at.
    We've got a wicket weekper that can't bat to the level he should, also batting behind two bowlers. Bres at 6? Brook at TKC at 4?

    It's a shambles.
     
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    You need to learn some respect. Your attitude to some of the finest sportsmen at Barnsley FC and Yorkshire CCC is appalling. You slag them off mercilessly, then you praise a complete time waster like Frimpong. Get a grip.
     
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    Worst performance in living memory by Yorkshire the Aussies have gone home and standards have plummrted Bowled out twice for next to nothing and rain could have helped in next 2 days.
     
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    WTF?
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    Get a job and get a life.
     
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    You know what Hemsy....I'd back Martyn Moxon's judgement over yours every single day of a 1000 years. I grew up watching him bat in the school team, bat for Yorkshire, bat for England, Captain Yorkshire, score thousands of runs, lead Yorkshire to back to back titles as Director of Cricket. He's forgotten more about cricket than you'll ever know. When you've actually gone out and done something feel free to start criticising the performance of others.
     
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    Out of interest what is so wrong with putting somebody connected with a club in charge?
     
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    You just know that someone on Sky mentioned it ! Or one of the youth team !
     
  12. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't a comment about Barnsley like one post says.

    Yorkshire CCC massively political and it's been said that the coach should be someone that doesn't get involved. It was something I was listening to before. I think it might have been David Townsend (I think that's what they call him, normally called DT) said. He's a southerner.

    Reading the Yorkshire forums ... people aren't happy with him and Moxon.
     
  13. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    He apparently picked Gale. He's a big part of the recruitment.

    ''Gale's job must be on the line. They have had a month to get ready for this match and this is what they come up with. We lost with 2 days and 24 overs left. Abject. Young Harry Brook does not look ready for the first team yet. Lyth, certainly Lees, Kohler-Cadmore, Leaning, Brooks (3 for 89 is his best figures of the season) are all vulnerable for the chop which could lead to the not retained list! Bresnan, Brother-in-law of the 1st team coach, well his captaincy does not inspire me with confidence whilst his batting form has deserted him. I wasn't happy when Gale got the job. For me it was the cheap option and now he could take us down. Listening to family and friends of the players the Yorkshire dressing room is an unhappy place and hearing the whispers Gale is very unpopular. Time to cut our losses now and sack him?'' Took this off Yorkshire forum, This not happy with Gale and Bres
     
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    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    Another good post from someone on there.

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    I don't want a refund for my £16 entry and £6 car parking and petrol from Leeds I just want to see my team do justice to the name of the county.

    A team in decline suggests it was once better than this but some of this team have sadly not been as good as some seem to think.

    Siddy is an exception and now past his best but still a class above some others with effort and determination. But Brooks is expensive and military medium and being out bowled by youngsters like Coad so he must be on borrowed time with Fisher in the wings demanding a game.

    The top order is just impossible to work out what to do. Ballance and Marsh would be helpful and even Though he's leaving Rhodes has to be a better option than all of the top 5 bar Lyth.

    But these decisions are taken by Gale and Moxon along with Pyrah presumably. Three old boys with two to close to the current team so they select on misplaced loyalty and having eyes turned by runs they have made in the seconds and Academy on the way up.

    An outsider may not appeal to some but they are impartial in thinking and don't have the same set of blinkers. I was ok with Gales appointment but have been proven wrong. We are not a county who should be with a coach who is starting out. We deserve an experienced coach with international knowledge and proven track record. I am sure others will tell me Dizzy was inexperienced and we took a punt on him years ago but he had worked in several countries and played top level cricket and learned from top coaches.

    We need one of Gale or Pyrah to learn from a Dizzy equivalent but not both learning as they middle along sadly.

    I think this has the makings of our most embarrassing defeat I can recall unless others know differently? It's up there with the defeats by minor counties in the old Gillette Cup in my view.''
     
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    Success in professional sport is often fleeting and intermittent. Where there are no big financial backers it's arguably a more level playing field. Lots of factors come into play, especially luck. I guess as I've got older I just look at sport with less intensity, enjoy and debate what I see and watch, but I do get tired of the winning is everything, "paralysis by analysis" that seems to exist. I think it's healthy for sport to have rolling change, different winners, as patriotic as I am. The great golfer Lee Trevino summed it up perfectly when asked why he didn't change his caddy or "coach" when going through a barren period - "It's the Indian that fires the arrows". No guarantees in sport.
     
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    He might be a nutcase, but he's right in this case.

    Although the players need a long, hard look at themselves too.
     
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    To be fair to Yorkshire, the 3 best batsmen (and a top-level wicket-keeper) are all unavailable due to international call-ups or injury picked up during international call-ups. It would be difficult for most teams to lose one of Root or Bairstow and not struggle on the batting side.
     
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    It's not helped having so many England players on duty for so long and that's probably affected a settled side. Throw in some injuries to key players and that's not helped either. But with a couple of exceptions they're all proven players, so it's form (confidence) that's the issue, not ability.

    Brook and TKC are both largely untried, not sure the later is a long form batsman, Brook is young and throwing him in is easier when you've got players around him playing well.

    I'm sure they'll turn it around but obviously they need it to happen sooner rather than later...
     
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