Darwin was wrong all along ?

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  1. Gue

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    Bush wants Intelligent Design taught as fact in US schools

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    Is quite an amusing letter sent to the Kansas school board who were considering adding intelligent design to school science lessons.</p>
     
  3. Gue

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    RE: Bush wants Intelligent Design taught as fact in US schools

    Didn't realise the USA had banned any sort of bible reference from classrooms. Think the God Squad are using Intelligent Design as a way of trying to get influence in education.
     
  4. Gue

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    It's always been going on though hasn't it?

    We've always been screwing kids' heads up with the two contrasting schools of thought.

    Maybe the kindest way to deal with it would be to teach the theory of evolution but throw in the possibility of divine intervention.

    Eevryone's a winner and there's the added bonus of being able to field all those difficult questions such as, "Yes sir but why do we like music?"
     
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    divine intervention

    When you're eating a dry old scone and someone taps you on the shoulder and says, "don't eat that, have this instead!" and hands you a plate of the finest chocolate cake you've ever tasted.
     
  6. Gue

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    The human eye

    can't have developed through evolution.
     
  7. Gue

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    Why's that then?

    You think the eye's perfect?

    You don't have the same resolution as an eagle, the same colour resolution as coral reef fishes, the same motion sensitivity as a praying mantis or the same panoramic visual field as a chameleon, yet you get by alright.

    A half working eye is better than no eye, thus gradual improvements are a viable mechanism for construction.
     
  8. Gue

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    RE: The human eye

    I've heard, "What good is half a wing?" explained successfully but not the eye. I'd always assumed it would start with simple organisms with photo-sensitive cells. Can't it be done then?
     
  9. Gue

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    Wings were originally temperature regulation surfaces

    Then additional appendages to speed up running, then allowed gliding and aided dispersal, then developed the musculature to allow flight.

    What good is half a wing? I think you should ask a glider pilot.
     
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    There are lots of ways

    half a wing can be better than no wing
    and half any eye can be better than no eye.

    And all these explainations are better than the cop out that god waved a magic wand!

    Whats more tricky for god is all the poor design in nature.
    like the appendix, the panda's thumb, why men have nipples etc etc
     
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    I believe Hugh Grant knows a little about Divine intervention too
     

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    And the frequently used

    Who created God?
     
  13. Gue

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    RE: There are lots of ways

    I found out recently why plants stretch in proximity to one another. They can determine the difference between light from source and that reflected from another plant can't they?

    Fantastic.
     
  14. Gue

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    RE: Why's that then?

    Photo receptors.
     
  15. Gue

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    Do explain further

    Eyes stage 1: Light sensitive patches

    Function: Knowing whether it's light or not. Let's you know if you're under a rock.

    Requires: A chemical which oxidises in light to produce electrons.
     
  16. Gue

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    RE: Do explain further

    And that happened by accident ?

    What about accomodative effort ?

    Somebody planned it sithi
     
  17. Gue

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    It happened randomly and became prevalent because it offered a survival advantage

    Many chemicals could perform the same function, many different ones do in different organisms which see in different parts of the visual spectrum.

    My light sensitive pigments are different to yours, that's why I'm red green colour blind.

    Accomodation provides clarity of image, that's unrelated to the function of photosensitive pigments or a simple eye.
     
  18. Gue

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    RE: It happened randomly and became prevalent because it offered a survival advantage

    Yes but how did the eye come to have accomodative ability ? You can see clearly with little or no amplitude of accomodation.
     
  19. Gue

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    Can you buggery

    It's fine having an eye with no accomodation capability if you frequently operate within a fixed visual source distance, such as if you're low to the ground, but once you want to see further or manipulate complex objects then you'd greatly benefit from focal adjustment.

    It seems you can't see past the end of your nose.
     
  20. Gue

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    RE: Can you buggery

    Oh. Okay then.
     

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