Davey's been in the job 2 years

It's time to question whether we're really making any progress under his management.
In my book while ever he's manager we will always be in the relegation dogfight.
His insistence on persevering with Odejayi is beyond belief. How many more points must we lose with his embarrasing misses?
At least the likes of Regis and Wright were soon dropped when it was obvious they were crap.
His failure to address the left side of the team is also getting beyond a joke. I've never yet seen a successful team line up with 11 right footed players.
Davey is quite clearly never going to sort out our abysmal away record which has now been going on for a season and a half. Now our home form is not as good as it was a year ago.
It all adds up to another long hard season fighting the drop as far as I'm concerned and in my opinion that's not good enough.

 

He's doing a great job !

We matched a Prem team today and only a daft mistake cost us a very good point, we are building a very good team all we need is the forward line up
sorting out.

 

Spot on Ossett Red.

 

We needed that sorting out 2 years ago when he got the job.
10 strikers later, it still isn't sorted.
I say again, what progress are we making?

 

In the style of Stone Cold Steve Austin. WHAT??? He took over his first management job when we looked like we would be going down. He kept us up, last season we finished even higher in the table and got to Wembley. This year we are higher still in the table. Gradual improvement.

 

A stupid error led to the goal,and our goal shy players another problem that needs sortin out quick

 

All these folk who keep banging on about last season's cup run.
What about our superb run in this season's Carling Cup when we were dispatched by one of the worst teams in league 1?
The bread and butter is the league, and we are now in our 3rd season back at this level, and yet again we are in the relegation dogfight.

 

We are a striker away from being a decent Championship side. But finding a goalscorer is the hardest thing to do. All clubs are looking for them. We have progressed massively in the last 2 years. The side of 2 years ago wouldn't survive in this division now. It is getting better as the years go on. And we are margins away from a result every week. Individual errors cost us in most games we lose.

 

First up we aren't in a relegation dogfight. As for Crewe did you go? They got two penalties and we dominated, but NO TEAM IN THE WORLD would have scored twice to take it to extra time against them. They had just about the entire team defending around the six yard box.

 

Yes I did go to Crewe thanks.
And we were *****.
If their tactics make the so impossible to score against why does every team in League 1 find it such a trivial task?

 

I doubt Crewe put just about the entire team in front of the six yard box and degend that deep every week for around an hour. We had lots of chances in that match and pretty much dominated it. You just can't kick a football through a human.

 

Fair point but if it were that simple every match would end 0-0.
As for your comment that we're not in a relegation dogfight, I'm afraid the league table makes different reading.
Remember where we were this stage last season and we still went down to the penulitimate match.
I dread to think how that table will look in a week's time.

 

Yes apart from Hume no one else Macken has missed chances this season too.Too many player that we are carrying and Christiensen gets the chop???????????

 

dont we go away from home hoping to go 1-0 or 2-0 up and then defend it.

Trouble was Crewe were successful we usually aren`t.

 

Do people really expect anything other than a relegation battle with 10000 home fans at most games?

 

We started off with gates like that in our Premiership promotion season

 

Yes, we did - but I feel that the football landscape has changed a lot since that time, though.

Off the top of my head teams like Oxford, Oldham, Southend and Grimsby were regulars in the second division at that time. So because of sides like those we weren't as close to the foot of the 'attendance league' as we are now.

I strongly feel that what you are able to spend on transfers and more importantly, wages, is likely to determine where you finish in any division - unless you have an outstandingly good manager who enables the club to punch
above its weight; or an outstandingly bad one who does exactly the opposite. If that is true (someone feel free to refute it if I'm wrong) then we 'should' be finishing in the lower reaches of this division, even if we have a half-decent (but not outstanding) manager at our disposal.

You talk about the promotion season. It's my view that we had either an outstanding manager, a lucky manager, or more likely a bit of both. Since we went up, how many sides have got into the Premiership on gates similar to the ones we attract? Fulham are one - but their status was artificially skewed because of the size of al-Fayed's wallet. Watford aren't a massive club, but their gates were presumably three or four thousand better than we can muster at the moment.

It's that lack of an extra few thousand fans that's pinning us to the level we're currently at, in my opinion. If we could somehow get 13000 home fans through the gates regularly instead of 10000, I wouldn't expect us to be fighting relegation every season.

 

An extra 3000 fans would bring in around £900,000 Davey has probably wasted this amount and more on poor signings, signings he has fallen out with and signings that he just refuses to play.

This is what annoys me about the man is the waste of our limited resources and his somewhat at times mysterious tactics.

 

Size of gates mean nothing or the likes of Leeds and Leicester would be in the championship. Also teams like Wigan wouldn't be in the premiership ahead of the big midlands teams.

 

In general, it means something.

Wigan are only in the Premiership because of Dave Whelan's money.

Leeds and Leicester are only in League One because they've been through administrations and will (eventually) bounce back to their natural level.

There are exceptions. Stoke 'shouldn't' be doing as well as they are; Forest 'should' be doing better than they currently are.

How astonished would you be to see Portsmouth finish above Manchester United - not beat them in a one-off game, but finish above them after a whole season? You'd be gobsmacked, because the latter's spending power is so much greater than the former's. In modern football (the Premiership more than any other league, but the same trend is becoming apparent in lower divisions too) you are what you spend.