Daveys take on the 3 games in hand.

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  1. fit

    fitzytyke Well-Known Member

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    According to him all we have to do is go into the games in hand and be relaxed and play football and we will be fine.

    You certainly talk the talk Simon but unfortunately your limping the limp my old Welsh mucker and sooner or later your luck will run out completely.
     
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    He's not lucky, he's a very hard working manager.
     
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    I'm not a Davey 'basher' (ooer) but he's most definately the luckiest manager I've ever seen manage Barnsley.
     
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    I don't think he's lucky at all.

    I think he has had a lot of bad luck with injuries and players losing form.

    If he was lucky we would be in a play off position and would have won last night.
     
  5. Dys

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    Or, if he was unlucky he would've been out of a job ages ago.

    He always seems to pull a result out of the bag when it looks as though we're on our arse which buys him more time.
     
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    Euroman Well-Known Member

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    It's not luck though is it?
    Give him a bit of credit.
     
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    I give him plenty of credit.

    I agree he's been unlucky with injuries, but, he's not been unlucky with the amount of money he's had to spend & also the stupid team selections/tactics he puts out.

    If JCR hadn't have scored that goal v Doncaster he would be out. Same as Nardiello v Birmingham a couple of years ago.
     
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    In my 50 years watching Barnsley I have never known a manager divide the fans opinions like this one, and I have to say that, in my opinion, he is the worst manger we have had in those 50 years, and yes, I am taking in to account Spackman and Parkin. the reason I have this opinion is that it is blatantly obvious that he does have the personnel to do a good job, but that is far outweighed by his absolute lack of knowledge of how to use these players on far too many occasions. Yes his team have produced on occasions and it is that, that condemns him.
     
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    G.R.B.B couldnt have put it better nt
     
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    you seriously believe that? nt
     
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    I thnk he does

    There is a lot I agree with him too, not everyting but a lot.
     
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    I can unnderstand being critical

    cos Davey does very strange things at times but to say he's the worst manager we've had for 50 years is a bit over the top when we've stopped up every season under him, beat Liverpool and Chelsea and been to an FA Cup semi final. Fair enough if the argument is we should be kicking on more but the worst manager??
     
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    That Sir is utter B*ll*cks.

    As another who has watched the Reds for over 50 years I would say he is one of the top 5 managers we have had.

    He was thrown in at the deep end with a very weak squad and limited finances and he has kept this small Club of ours in the Championship. But there are still people who will not give him any credit for this fine achievement.
     
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    No way is he worse than parkin.
     
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    I wouldnt say he was a worse manager than Spackman, Hart, Parkin, et al but he is no better IMO and look what happened to all these. What does Davey have that the others didnt? He is lucky and he has a supporter in Cryne that is prepared to show more loyalty and patience in his manager than the others got.
     
  16. Sorry Ron, don't agree with all of that!

    His selections are baffling - yes. His motivational skills MIGHT be lacking but how do we know that for sure? Footballers are probably willful beasts who just basically do what THEY want to do most of the time - good or bad. His knowledge of the game might be wonderful, but then again might not. He might be the best coach in England one day, but probably not. For now though, he is all we have got and there is NO chance of bringing somebody else in before the season's end. I think we will survive - my prediction table today sees us finishing 19th with 54 points and I think that is achievable. Then we have to start improving. It might take a change of manager to get that improvement but of course we all know that it will be ALL CHANGE in those circumstances and back to the drawing board.
    In my 47 seasons watching this team I wouldn't put SD at the bottom of the list. Parkin, Spackman and Hart must surely fill the relegation slots, with Simon staying up on goal difference. I'm often not happy trekking back down south on a Saturday evening but sometimes, just sometimes, the journey is worthwhile. I'll keep doing it anyway, no matter who is running the show.
     
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    Therein lies the issue

    the period of instability you've just described saw us reach our lowest ebb in the last 25 years. We've stuck with Davey and we are certainly no worse. There may be an argument that we aren't improving but by having a sensible chairmen who isn't trigger happy we have stabalised both on and off the pitch
     
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    What else can he say?

    His back is to the wall - he knows time is running short and he needs to deliver.</p>

    He has lost one of his star players to long term injury, and other important players to family bereavement and suspensions at a time when he least could do with them</p>

    Yet in the midst of all that chaos we nearly turn the Division's second best team over, and still come out with a point we never expected.</p>

    I'm sure he has probably told the team a lot more things than just to relax and enjoy, but he has to put a positive outlook on it whatever the circumstances. I certainly wouldn't want the pressure he must be going through at the moment.</p>
     
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    If stability means going back into league 1 then we are no better off than we were in the dark days. Stability is important but only if you have the right man in place or if there is potential that is demonstrated by progress - i just dont see any progress. We cant sack Davey now, that would be suicide at this stage of the season but wherever we finish I think Davey has to be moved on after the season has finished.
     
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    just read the post worst manager in 50 years,what are you having a laugh this is a wind up aint it,yes he does baffle us at times with his decisions eg macken captain in front of moore,but he keeps pulling results out of the hat which in my opinion keeps him in a job remember results based industry live by results die by results,he we go down sack him if he manages to keep us up then stand by himwe are moving forward since admin lets be patient keep some stability for gods sakelook at charlton .curbishley was there 15 years took them to premier kept them up, top 10 finish ,fans got restless wanted a top 6 finish ,he left rest is history 22 million in debt ,and looking at third division football who would have though it i put them down for a top 6 finish how topsy turvy this league is,look at rovers there fans werent happy not long ago and where are they now,
     

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