David Cameron

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  1. Gue

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  2. Young Nudger

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    Tony Blair

    How can someone with a 11 point lead turn it into a 6 point behind in the polls inside 2 weeks
    Fooooking disaster
    Brown hasn't shown that he is good enough yet
    And Camaron is just, or looks like, a cabbage patch kid from Eton

    Give it time................not be long before the Labour Party faithfull start to realise they have got rid of the best PM this country has seen in the last 100 years. And you just watch for them shouting for him to come back
    Im expecting a phase in the Labour Party similar to the one the Tories went through when Maggie left
     
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    Why is Brown a "bottler"?

    Purely because he decides not to call an election when he doesn't need to call one?

    We are only just over 2 years into a 5 year term - there's no need, media speculation again, and we won't stop it until we start having fixed term governments.
     
  4. Gue

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    hes a bottler because he told his party to prepare for an election becuase the polls suggested he was miles ahead then he went electioneering to Iraq in the middle of the Tory Party conference...

    the polls narrowed....Cameron taunted him to call an election and he bottled it...

    now an unelected Prime Minister sits on his thumbs for 18 months...
     
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    while a recession takes hold.
     
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    politicians

    self-serving liars who think they know best.</p>

    There isn't one I'd trust as far as I could throw em.</p>

    And I don't care what colour they wear.</p>
     
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    1. He never said there was to be an election, he said he would consider it.
    2. As an incumbant Prime Minister he visited troops on active service, as Tony Blair did.
    3. We don't elect Prime Ministers.
    4. The polls narrowed, so you would really expect a PM who can still serve for another 3 years to call an election that he might lose?!
     
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    agreed

    The media / press making the most of it since an election news frenzy has been cancelled until further notice.

    But don't lett facts get in the way of a good bout of negativity
     
  9. Gue

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    1. you think he wouldnt have called it had the polls remained as they were
    2. why wait to do it right in the middle of the Tory conference
    3. by default he became prime minister not by vote but because no one else stood
    4. no of course not, but he bottled it after the Labour party conference
     
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    on point 3. we don't have a president elected by the people, we have a Prime minister who is theleader of a party elected by the party. The party has the mandate not the leader.
     
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    Perhaps he may have called an election, we'll never know, but I'm pleased he didn't - we need to stop this ability to call snap elections just because the polls at that point are favourable, and move to fixed terms so they can't pick and choose when to go to the polls.
     
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    RE: politicians

    To be honest, I think you have a brighter opinion of them than I have - to say that they 'think' they know best, is a bit much. I'm not sure if half of them care whether they know or think best (or whether what they do or don't do is 'good' or 'bad' for the country as a whole) - I'm sure that the majority of politicians care far more for their ability to hold onto or obtain power, and they are an amoral bunch that go about it with false promises and heartless, cynical attitudes. There is no space for ideology in politics any more - it's about consensus and keeping an even keel. If either Cameron or Brown were told reliably that a policy offering tax relief to the owners of sky-diving chimpanzees would win them the election - you can bet that they'd be arguing over who thought of it first.
     
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    The Tories have always been happy to call an election when it suited them, on their own terms.</p>

    Brown is only playing the same game the Tories have played many times in the past.</p>

    Stuff Cameron, next month Labour could be 10 points in front of the Tories.I bet he wouldn't be mouthing off then.</p>

    There's no reason at all for Brown to call an election just to please Cameron and his Eton educated mafia.
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    RE: politicians

    W@nkers, the lot of them.
     
  15. Gue

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    Agreed, or constitutional reform where if the PM quits mid term there is then a General Election.
     
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    Its swings and roundabouts,

    objective number 1 for any Govt is to get re-elected.</p>

    Fixed term means that the Givt is only gonna look to do anything at the back end of their tenure in order to get re-elected.</p>

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  17. Gue

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    Why do we need an election because 1 person quits mid-term?

    We don't vote for Prime Ministers and never have.

    The Prime Minister is, by convention, the leader of the Party that has a majority in the House of Commons. It follows that if the PM quits the Party concerned elects a new leader who'll become PM. Brown was unopposed because frankly no-one else stood a prayer against him.
     
  18. Gue

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    Another islander? Did you get the bus to Ryde from Cowes after the Soton game? Seeing a Barnsley shirt made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
     

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