David Davis resigns over evasion of privacy and freedom

Objects to new terror detention plans, cameras, and DNA data bases. does he know

Cameras catch rapists, child molesters, murderers, muggers and many more
DNA also catch the same. As for terrorists ask the British Public what they want at least 70% want the law.

He is completely out of step and hope he loses the Bye Election. (doh) (doh) (doh)

 

6 weeks is a long time but I firmly believe that if you've nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

 

Publicity stunt. Can't belive Lib Dems aren't contesting the seat.

If you watch the resignation speech on the BBC website he comes across as a right w@nker. Of which he is.

 

Pity it wasn't Gordon Broon nt

 

Lib Dems aren't contesting it

because they agree with him.

So they'd just be taking votes away in what they are hoping to turn into a mini-referendum.

 

I'd vote for him

My head's spinning on this because he's a ******* Tory, but I think he's right, so I'm not going to blindly follow and I'll look at individual policies.

 

The only people who object to most of these laws are the people who have someting to hide, or the wishy washy do gooders, human rights protestors etc.</p>

What about the human rights of innocent people to be able to go about their daily business without fear of being robbed, mugged, raped or murdered by terrorists.</p>

Lock em up, then let em swing like Saddam. No doubt the do gooders will now have a field day....</p>

 

This is some sort of alternative reality isn't it?

A Conservative MP takes a liberal stance.

The world's gone mad!

 

Didn't realise this law would stop robbers, muggers and racists

I obviously hadn't thought it through. I'm all for it now.

 

I must have something to hide then.

As must the leaders of the security services, because according to the parliamentary debate yesterday, despite what Brown said at the despatch box, the heads of the security services have not advised or asked that 42 day detention without trial be adopted as law.

 

And

the 28 day detention period has proved to be sufficient, nobody has been released without charge after 28 days and then gone on to commit a terrorist act.

 

Youll all be there next general election.....

puting your X in the box next to Labour becuase "Barnsleys always been Labour and your dad voted for them and his dad...."

 

RE: Didn't realise this law would stop robbers, muggers and racists

Read the first post from wastyke, where he refers to cameras, DNA etc. These are laws that were passed and have not only caught criminals, but on occassions i would suspect prevented crimes from being committed.</p>

At no point do i state this law will prevent mugging and rapes etc. I mentioned &quot;these type of laws&quot;as a general statement. So you are correct in saying you didnt think it through, simply because you didnt read it correctly.</p>

 

Study after study has shown that CCTV have almost no impact on the prevention or the detection of crime. They make almost no difference to crime rates whatsoever!
Also, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear!!? Is that what 2000 years of the British justice system has to be reduced to? This is Britain, a democracy, where if you want to hide something, thats your right. Innoccent until proven guilty! You can't hold people, against their will, without charge for any length of time and call it a free democratic society. How would you like it if you were arrested, and then held (amongst the rapists, child molesters, murderers, muggers and more) without being charged, without being told what you were being held for, would you be sat there saying 'oh well ive got nowt to fear, ive not done owt wrong'. Oh thats ok then as long as youve not done owt wrong they should legally be allowed to just keep you detained then. And its alright saying, well its not going to happen to me is it? But thats not the point, the point is that they could, and just because its unlikely to happen to any of us (being held and detained against our will without charge) doesnt mean that it should be lawful to do so, to anybody. You are unlikely to ever paint your house with polka dots, but it doesnt mean it should be against the law.
Rant over. Its like being at uni again. Bloody students!

 

hee hee

That showed me. I deserved it too. Serves me right for being a sarcy ****.

Can't say as I agree with any part of your stance, but I think I better keep me head down as you've shown me up as a bit of a lovely person. Ah well. maybe next time.

 

The legislation that was used to monitor that family with regards to a school catchment area was anti-terror legislation. At the time it was brought in, the govt stated that the powers under this legislation would be used sparingly and only after an application to court where a judge would rule if they could be used. </p>

What is happening now is that councils are using it for 'crimes' such as parents trying to get their kids into a good school.</p>

as I said the other day, let's just wait for this latest folly, should it ever become law, to be used against protesters against things like road building, foreign leaders etc. </p>

This has absolutely knob all to do with terrorism and all with ensuring that the govt national and local has ever increased powers to keep us in check.</p>

 

What is happening now is that councils are using it for 'crimes' such as parents trying to get their kids into a good school.
This is a new one on me.
Please enlighten me.

 

RE: hee hee

No offence meant, but imagine if we all had the same views? no banter, i just fell strongly about scumbags in this world and the effect they have on innocent people, so i have a very low tolerance or regard for them.

 

Ive got a CCTV camera installed on the front of my house

networked to my pc. and it has and does deter crime. FACT.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/7343445.stm