David Moyes on John Stones

DM is talking to Alan Brazil on Talksport right now.

He has just told AB that Everton paid 1.25M for Stones.

Even if that just represents the initial outlay, you can't help feeling that yet again there has been some economy with the truth on our part.

 

Clubs a joke with transfers. We expect to float along selling players on the cheap will get us nowhere. Holgate another one who went for a cheap price

 

Could be

that he's just talking himself up "look how good a manager I am, I got John Stones for £1.25M......"

 

Re: Could be

Can't see that. Seems a very straight bloke, so far as I can make out. 1M or 2M would still make him look shrewd - although he gave the credit to his 'recruitment team', interestingly. What can be said is that this amount would be half the figure stated to a supporter's meeting earlier this year.

 

Who cares?

Thought we'd finally put this one to bed, it's in the past let it go.

 

If we only initially got half the amount our club have lead us to believe we got, then I reckon an hell of a lot of people will care both for being lied to and for having our pants down even more than first feared.

 

gerroff yer perv

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I imagine that was initial outlay so there's truth in both camps. According to Cryne, it wasn't Moyes who wanted Stones but their Academy head so he did get a bit lucky too.

Same goes for Holgate - we're talking £1,000,000, I've been told up front we got £250k with rest add ons.

 

I'd like to think we could trust what the club have told people in confidence at supporter meetings rather than what an out of work manager has to say over the radio

That being said, what's done is done and whether we like it or not it cannot be changed now so is it worth getting worked up over it?

 

I see that the confidentiality clause has been adhered to spectacularly. I am absolutely certain the only reason we're not told the value of transfers is because football is run by the type of men who like to know stuff that other people don't know. Particularly if it's the type of information others would dearly love to know. It makes them feel important. Everyone in football knows exactly how much a player is sold for. They know exactly what wage he is on. Check the latest figures for agents fees. Clubs pay these people vast amounts of money, they brokered the deals, they tell others that information. A confidentiality clause does not give a club an advantage, if the information was released it would not put them at a disadvantage, everyone who could use the information to their advantage already knows, or could easily find out. Confidentiality clauses are used to keep the plebs/fans/playing customers in their place.

In America, where they don't have a class system, where knowing more than your peer group doesn't make you more important, the exact figures of every transfer deal and every wage are freely available to all. Does it adversely affect them? Of course not.

 

But they shoot each other all the time, we don't. I suspect I've finally found the reason.

 

It's purely to add an air of mystery so we can't hold people to account. IMHO.

 

It could be that, I'm not ruling it out. Although I suspect it's more to do with the fact that you can walk up to a convenience store, buy a gun and start shooting people. If you could do that here, we'd not have so many people posting on this forum.

 

Damn right we wouldn't.

 

"Johnson Out!"

Just off t' shop.

 

all BFC transfers are undisclosed because they absolutly piss them self laughing every time at the uproar on here! move on he's sold , we get 15% when hes sold again.

 

We were told that we got £3 million for Stones and that was the highest ever amount in England for such a young player.

But I'm surprised Patrick actually sold him - according to what he has said since Stones left the club, none of the directors at the club knew how good he was - even though the management team and Bobby Hassells comments had been reported in the Chronicle about Stones - i.e. the comments 'Rolls Royce of a player'.

In my view, if Everton had tried hard enough they could have got Stones for NOWT........or next to NOWT

Like all the rest that have been released since Patrick has been at the helm.

 

Our transfer dealings over the last ten years have been utter *****. Overpaid for average laikers, and had our pants pulled down on the few occasions we've had a special talent.

 

Whose we, and who told you that?

 

The figure gets less every year. By 2020 it'll emerge it was a free transfer & we paid the taxi fare