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Discussion in 'Bulletin Board ARCHIVE' started by Conan Troutman, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Any ******** reasons for why needed everyone to pay for their season tickets by Easter?

    I know last season the club conned everyone by saying we were going to recruit early, which was clearly never their intention, but to be fair I can't say I've heard any such flannel this time round.
     
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    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    Nope they were just cheaper if you did so.
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure they did. Didn't Ben say that the early bird offer meant that LJ could have his budget early and could get ahead of the game with recruitment?
     
  4. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if they played that card again but couldn't remember.
     
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    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    I'm not certain but I'm pretty sure Ben said something about recruitment and the early bird offer in an interview.
     
  6. Dr Zazlos

    Dr Zazlos Banned Idiot

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    Not sure what was said but things seem to be worse at this moment in time than it was last year.
     
  7. Con

    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    I think we were seeing a flurry of activity this time last year.

    I might just go along to the open day to see what tripe they come up with.
     
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    It wont be local tripe it`ll probs be off Leeds Market.
     
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    It was cheaper to get a season ticket early so I can watch MY club for less for another season. That's the reason I bought early, same reason as last season. I don't need Ben or anyone to say anything to make the decision for me.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    Why was it made cheaper though? Why does it matter to the club if you renew in April or 9am on 15th August? It never mattered in the past 127 years.
     
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    Why not offer it cheaper if you buy early? Does there have to be a reason? Don't a lot of clubs have the same offer? To entice you to buy? It's an offer, why doos any company bother with offers?

    I don't care.
     
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    It matters because the club must now have evidence in support of their player wages budget because of SCMP. The wages budget is calculated at 60% of turnover, of which season ticket revenue is the major part.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    That's no different to FFP. It's not even worth the pretence.
     
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    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    The rules for SCMP differ greatly from those for FFP. The principle differences that we need to look at in this discussion are how are the targets calculated and how are sanctions applied.

    The first difference is that FFP is calculated from the audited accounts of a football club, which typically are not available until 6 months after the previous season ends. Clubs are not allowed to post losses more than an agreed amount or else sanctions may be applied.

    SCMP calculates an agreed budget in advance of the season based upon already secured revenue and reasonable estimates of the rest. No allowance for cup runs can be built in. An owner can increase turnover and therefore the wages budget, but only by making a non-returnable donation to the club. Only transfer funds received can be included, so in the case of phased payments, only the part received can be included in turnover and therefore the wages budget. Transfer fees paid are not included in player wages, but control is exercised over transfer fees because a large fee would mean that the player would expect a commensurate wage. The original estimates for turnover and wages are updated on an ongoing basis throughout the season and coming within 5% of breaching the wages cap will institute an immediate review.

    SCMP is therefore much tougher than FFP. The penalty for exceeding the budget is a transfer embargo. We may not like it, and because of this some of us may chose to ignore it, but SCMP is now the biggest limiting factor upon how clubs conduct their business.

    Last year, because of transitional arrangements for relegated clubs, we were allowed to spend 70% of turnover on wages, 10% more than this year.
     
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    Maybe the club were just doing you a favour and offering a deal whereby you saved some money. Your choice if you want to take them up on it
     
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    Get out of here with your sensible logic.

    Now, slag the club off at once and complain about everything, if you wish to stay on the BBS.
     
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    Then why didn't they write that in the renewal letter ;)

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  18. Red

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    I don't know. Do you think that it would have made any difference.

    By the way, the rules of SCMP are easy to find, try Wikipedia.
     

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