Don't be fooled by his Amial buffoon act

Don't be fooled by his Aimiable buffoon act

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013...uper-rich-an-oppressed-minority-like-homeless

This shows his true allegiance.

 

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He was allying himself with Irish Travellers and gang members as well though wasn't he?

Plus the class warfare thing is getting pretty boring as well, the richest 1% pay 30% of income tax, without them we'd all be ****ed, who else is going to pay all the benefits of the Roma gypsies we were discussing on the other thread for example?

 

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The richest 1% earn more than 30% of the income, so they therefore deserve to pay the 30% of the tax bill. But they dont pay all they bloody should pay anyway .
do they ?

Yes the class warfare is boring , but it is still happening, the rich get richer and the poor pay for them to do so !!!

 

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Yes, they do. The top 15% contribute around 63% of all income tax. We can tax them as much as we like, but they'll hire new accountants or send their money to Switzerland. I really don't understand this hatred of the rich. Baffles me.

 

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Soaking the rich never works, they're rich so they can just up and move somewhere else, then you're not getting any money out of them whatsoever, raise their taxes and that's what they'll do or they'll move their money and you'll end up with less tax than you were getting before.

 

Better to rely on the trickle down isn't it?

 

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Not the correct proportion based on income. You only comment on political posts which are about 1 per cent of the posts on here but then I doubt you're a Barnsley fan.

 

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Really? Do you seriously believe that? Like you, he was spouting rubbish to try and win a point, and as for saying that class warfare is boring is exactly what the rich want you to think, like I've said before, the biggest and best exponents of class warfare are the the rich and their acolytes in the tory party as that article proves.

 

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To me, this article reads like Boris is simply protecting / defending a lucrative income stream for the Treasury?
What's wrong with that?

As PinballWizard stated earlier, it is not beyond their intelligence to move money to a lower tax haven, then the Treasury receives less money and has to look to fill the gap with other income options ie. more Tax for those with PAYE?

The rich contribute to UK society and the Treasury......our much bigger worry is the influx of immigrants and "Jeremy Kyle freaks" who are simply here to sponge the UK for whatever they can get.

 

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The problem is some won't look at tax in a pragmatic fashion - for me the key is to maximise revenue - then it can be spent. If you want to 'punish' people merely for having a high income or a nice house, then they are rich enough to take action to avoid. Then we all lose out.

There is a principle that everyone should pay a fair share - but when you want to be punitive at the top end then don't be surprised if people start to take action to thwart it.

The overriding principle for me should be to encourage folk to earn more, not to come down hard on them for wanting to better themselves.

 

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No one in Britain should be paying more than 20% income tax never mind 30%...........it would be good if that level was reduced even further to as low as possible...........Boris has a very good point
And no one earning less than £300 per week should be paying any income tax at all

We need a richer economy with a more efficient public sector

 

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The amount of income tax and national insurance paid by the super rich is a crass argument. Surely if there was a more even distribution of wealth the same amount of tax would be paid in, but by a greater number of people? The Treasury wouldn't be any worse off.

 

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You're using simple maths which is even more crass. You're never going to get an even distribution of wealth, it never has and never will happen. Some people are prepared to work hard and earn a good living, some are not capable of doing that. That's the way of the world. Just look at communist China - more millionaires there than Britain.Never understood this hatred of the rich, it should be everyone's ambition to try their best to join them.

 

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Inherited wealth v Earned wealth. Very different IMO.

 

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Agree there Mario, especially with the nobility system, but if you worked your butt off and earned a few million, you'd want to see your kids reap the benefit wouldn't you? I've worked for an employer all my life so have been taxed to death but have managed to buy my own home and bring up a couple of bright kids. My house is probably worth about £150,000 and when me and the missus have gone, I'd expect them to inherit that wealth and why shouldn't they? It's on a lot lower scale than Paul Sykes's kids or Richard Branson's kids but the same principle.

 

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Damned right, I work hard and I am trying to make sure I have something to pass my kids when I go. I would love to see wealth distributed more evenly but it is not going to happen. It makes me sick seeing people pay millions for a picture or a piece of jewellery when there are people starving but there is nothing that can be done about that. I have no issue with people who work hard and contribute having money.

 

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NB. By inherited wealth I am talking about kids who inherit wealth and estates that have been inherited by generations before them. People who never have to work and who haven't got a clue what real life is.

 

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No they don't pay 30% income tax they pay 30% of all income tax, as for the political thing it wasn't me who turned this forum into some sort of SWP offshoot, I'd rather get back to the football.

 

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So what about the multi millions of paye,self assessment., tax credit over payment etc hmrc never get paid...

Or we only allowed to go after the rich Tory types?

 

How do you manage to under pay

Your tax on P.A.Y.E.? Each individual employee's tax details are annually corroborated with the Inland Revenue, in order to ensure the appropriate levels of taxation are deducted as per the details supplied by H.M.R.C.. As a former Payroll Manager, I'm baffled as to how you'd begin to calculate the amount of discrepancy for people who pay their tax in this manner to confidently claim the underpayment runs into millions of pounds.