Doubts over Davey this season

The fact he thought Mattis would improve the squad.
Playing Robbie WIlliams in central midfield then letting him go on loan (playing well and scoring for fun at Blackpool)
Playing Togwell on the right wing
Signing on loan Ritchie Jones for some reason>?
Insisting Paul Reid is skipper when he plays.
Unable to deal with Kay, in doing so probably letting him leave.
Constantly playing 451 formation notably at home!
Signing Eckersley then losing interest in him.
Paying money for McCann then leaving him on the bench
Bringing in Leon Knight when he wasnt even fit
Fetching in an old mate keeper, and not blame him for his poor performances hence he'll be number one next season.
Leaving Hayes completely out of the picture when he could have been used.
Playing Howard out wide when he was clearly playing much better in the middle

But its ok cos HE kept uis up!

 

Davey has worked a miracle..........................................

Can we have your thoughts now on what Ritchie would have done to keep the team up?

 

Davey's done what he needed to do this season, full credit to him.

 

his most important decisions/impacts though: signing Ferenczi, getting Nards scoring, switching Reid and Dev on the wings to get us those 3 wins. Who gives a **** what else he did, we're safe

 

agree 100%,he also satisfies cryne,s policy,he comes cheap.which is why we a certain for relegation next season.third rate manager,third rate players,third rate administrators

 

Great 1st post Billy!!!!

Slate, slate, slate....... that's all people tend to do on here, no matter what happens. The guy did what he was brought in to do. He's tried new things, and he's quickly changed them when not working.
Give him a pre-season with the players and see what he can do.

 

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(wnkr) (wnkr) (wnkr) (wnkr) (wnkr)

 

My only problenm with him was that he was overly negative

Especially at home, played 4-51 too much. Played Mccan and Togwell too much, kept K Reid on the becnh too much. He seemed more determined to stop the other team than trying to score. As soon as he reverted to 4-4-2 with 2 wingers we started scoreing freely again.

But I guess he learned. One thing I am sure of though is that under Ritchie we would have been down with about 5 games to play.

 

Well said that man. Ouch! that hurt, but, the truth (if it is the truth) usually does.

 

Ritchie would have stuck to

an attacking 442 formation and not brought in players who would not improve the team. Ok Ferenczi had half a dozen decent games but has Eckersley, Mattis and Jones improved the side? they have barely played! Racjzi and McCann can barely get off the bench too and the waste of bringing in Leon Knight was ridiculous. You might point to Nytanga and yes he looks a good prospect but lets face it we havent really improved the defence much have we?
the line up for the last home game was virtually identical to the line up in Ritchies play off final. 7 played, ozzy came in for Hassells suspension and Togs was brought in to replace Mcphail.

Colgan, Austin, Kay, Reid, Hecky, K.Reid, Howard, Togwell, Devaney, Nads. Ferenci

Who has Davey brought in to improve things? A young lad on loan from West Ham and a striker that nobody had ever heard of.
So to my mind the team has virtually ended up as Ritchie would have picked it. Plus have you noticed we only seemed to win when we played an attacking 442 formation (a la Ritchie)? When we reverted to trying to stop the other team like we did against many sides we lost.
To me that says it all about Davey

 

Remain to be convinced myself, but he's done what he was employed to do and kept us up. As such, he deserves our backing and a full season to show us what he can do.

 

Piss off and watch Huddersfield then..

I'm not getting into who is the better manager debate Richie or Davey because I think there is only one way to sort it out..... FIGHT

Andy and Simon smacking 7 shades out of each other at half time during the charidy match this afternoon should settle the argument once and for all.

 

RE: Davey has worked a miracle..........................................

Davey has not worked a miricle, he has done what was required of his brief for which he deserves credit, thanks and congratulations. Let's see what he can do with a full pre season and what backing he gets from the board. </p>

As for Ritchie that is a fatuous argument in that we will never know. Why do you have to turn every comment into Ritchie v Davey. </p>

My 'gripe' is with the way the board dealt with AR in the period up to his dismisal which I thought was 'grubby' to say the least and to state that we would replace him with an experienced championship manager. Davey was not an experienced Championship manager... now he's had 6 months experience and I hope that will set him in good stead. I've never criticised Davey as he took a job that anyone would have jumped at. He may be the best up and coming manager since David Moyes but one thing there'll be no hiding place for the board or Davey if next season goes down the toilet.</p>

 

Who gives a **** what Ritchie did - it's not relevant now. What he posted is.

There is a serious point being made - somehow we stayed up. Do we believe that Davey can push us any further or should we make a change?</p>

Stop trying to drag it back to the Ritchie v Davey debate.</p>

 

I remain sceptical myself. I think it is nothing less than a miracle that we stayed up and I refused to believe that Davey kept us up all on his own. The whole team pulled it out when the critical time came. </p>

I think Davey has a defensive instinct and I really think that our up turn in form towards the end of the season came as the last throw of the dice. We came very, very close to relegation and I honestly don't know whether Davey has the managerial ability to provide us with long term Championship stability. I am equally worried about the handling of the Anthony Kay situation - although I lack symapthy for his behaviour (if it is true) the way in which the club have handled it is akin to the way in which Ritchie was removed (i.e. dirty laundry in public).</p>

The club has a lot of issues, on and off the pitch, and I just hope there isn't going to be a sense of complaicency at this point because we simply can't afford it.</p>

 

My knob end

Third rate manager:
Had one brief - to take a team in 23rd place of 24 and keep them up. Very tough assignment but mission accomplished. Now I'm not saying he hasn't made mistakes along the way but it is grossly unfair to call that performance third-rate.

Third rate players:
Got us to the Championship, kept us in the Championship. Then at the end gave everyone a stark reminder that the mistakes of the last close-season must not be repeated and this squad must be reinforced.

Third rate administrators:
Best claim of the lot. Remind me who was in the frame to take the club over after administration. All I remember is Doyle and co, Lewis and co, or the current incumbents. Given those choices, which ones are the first-rate administration you wanted? If any multi-billionaires wanted to take us on and lavish their life savings on us then I must have forgotten. So we are stuck with an administration that wants the club to be a self-sufficient concern. Shepherd took the reins in 2004. Each year since then, the off-field financial targets have been reached or surpassed and on the pitch we have been promoted from the league we were in and in our first season in the league above, finished in this higher league 2 places and 8 points clear of relegation. Again, not perfect - PR mistakes, the managerial fiasco, failure to make improve merchandising to make it the goldmine it could be and so on. But third rate? Hardly

I am not a happy-clapper-no-negative-attitudes-allowed type but for fvcks sake, slate 'em when the don't make the grade not when they do.

 

RE: Who gives a **** what Ritchie did - it's not relevant now. What he posted is.

What AR did is very relevant.</p>

You can't slag Davey off with out comparing it to the situation we were in with AR. Davey was thrown in at the deep end with a team which ran people off the park for 45 minutes and then lost.
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AR failed to bring players in during the pre-season. He also sent a player back to his Club when he had already set off to Oakwell for his medical. That player went to a Premiership Club. He had ample opportunity to sign players but choose to go with players like Richards and Hayes, League 1 players at best.
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ARs view of BFC was that we were an over achieving League One Club ignoring the fact we have spent more time at this level than any other Club.</p>

0.8 ppg under AR or 1.2 ppg under Davey?</p>

Davey got more out of this team this season than AR did.</p>

The League table doesn't lie.</p>

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However

You must concede that on the most important point he was a success. He kept us in the division and you've got to give him credit for that.

 

I'm still at a total loss as to why you always bring Ritchie back into any argument

Looks like you're obsessed to me.

 

RE: Who gives a **** what Ritchie did - it's not relevant now. What he posted is.

I don't think you understand.</p>

I don't give a flying **** what Ritchie did or didn't do. It's in the past. We're asking the question - 'has Davey got what we need for the future?'. Ricthie has no relevance to that question whatsoever.</p>