Emmanuel Frimpong Wishes He Was White

Shame he doesn't wish he was any good. Modern footballers. Always someone else's fault.

 

To Frimpong:

The act of firing table tennis balls out of the vag, such as one might find in the shadier nightspots of Bangkok.

 

Re: To Frimpong:

White English players have made up a very small number of players at Arsenal for quite a while, whereas black French-speaking African players have been much more numerous so I'd suggest he's speaking rot.

 

He's a kn0b.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24702729

 

They've actually got their argument completely wrong

Webb said: "The [English] game must reflect society and the community. It doesn't do so."

Well, they're right, it doesn't, but not in the way they're suggesting. The percentage of black players in England is far higher than the percentage of black people in the population. The percentage of black managers is pretty much on par with percentage of black people in the population.

Look up the figures if you don't believe me.

Where there is a discrepancy is that the number of black managers does not reflect the number of black footballers. I know that is what many black players are arguing and it's something for which they have my full backing, but that is not the same as claiming the number of black managers does not reflect our society and the community because I'm afraid it does.

Maybe Mr Webb would argue that some communities have a much higher percentage of black people in the population, and he'd be right, but that works both ways. If Barnsley managers were to reflect our community then we wouldn't have a black manager for a thousand years, yet Viv Anderson was given the job in 1993. We must take an average across the nation and in the last 20 years the number of black managers does reflect our society.

Obviously, I'm racist. It's there for all to see.

 

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Sick of hearing Black people whinging on tv. If he was good enough it wouldn't matter if he was Black, White, Blue Green or Pink. He is one of the 'new breed' of player who enjoys the fame of being a footballer without actually playing football

 

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If only you were right and racism didn't exist still must be beautiful on your planet.

 

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Brilliant, 'Jimmy Cricket' and 'CricketJim' with polar opposite views, who'd have thunk it.

 

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Threads like this and recent ones about Yaya Toure and Sol Campbell may go some way to explaining why you hardly see any non-white faces at Oakwell. Would you anticipate a warm welcome?

 

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Probably the same reason there aren't many Maoris at Oakwell either.

 

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So having an opposing view to a black person makes you racist? I think even many black people think Sol Campbell is a total bell-end who talks utter ***** and actually does nothing to help race relations. The same is true of that odious black lawyer, Peter Herbert. I think Jay's earlier post explains much more accurately why there aren't too many non white faces in Oakwell.

 

Statistics and all that can show this.

The pc brigade make it worst.

Example. At oakwell on Saturday I went to the kiosk and asked for a coffee.

Little lass asked me if I wanted a white coffee or a dark coffee.

I just laughed...

Surely its white and black coffee or light and dark coffee. You cant piss about and mix it up. Its bonkers

 

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Crock of *****...

 

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An interesting point of view. Last census showed 29.1 percent of uk is classed as non white. It's reasonable to say that you would expect football which represents a large employer of non whites to reflect this throughout including at all managerial levels both within the league and throughout the FA management structure. It does not. In part this can probably be explained by the fact that the first generation of black players are only just reaching the point where they become managers. In part it can be explain by residual racism in part it can be explain by the old school tie mafia at the FA. It's a complex issue with no definitive answer. To exclude racism from the reasons for this is just plain wrong.

At Oakwell friendlier than it used to be but there is still inherent racism. Went to the QPR game with a couple of black friends one neutral bloke and my ex who is a long term reds fan. He was struck by the casual racism in our fans. And it's probably worth remembering that a large percent were exiled reds. She said he should have tried the Ponty in the early 90s before Viv.

 

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I never excluded racism from anything. I don't for one minute think it doesn't exist and never even alluded to that fact. I simply stated that the number of black managers in England reflects the percentage of black people in this country.

I believe there are 4 black managers in the football league at present. There are 92 clubs. According to all the maths books I've ever read that's over 4%. According to the 2011 UK census just 3% of the population of the UK are black. It rises to 3.3% in England and Wales. I have absolutely no idea where you have got your figures. I have also no idea how you have taken so many implications from my post which simply stated facts. Not BBS FACTS, but proper, well researched, accurate facts.

The amount of black managers reflects the amount of black people that live in our society. That is all I stated and it is clearly correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20687168

 

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Whilst bowing to the facts of Wikipedia I was referring to the ONS report on the 2011 census which classified people who described themselves as non white. Even within the ONS report there is some debate as to what exactly is meant by non white therefore there is sone disparity within the figures. Within the strictest guidelines White British represented 80.5 percent of those surveyed and within that those describing themselves as a minority within that sub group represented a further 10 to 11 percentage points. any researcher would expect this to be reflected in managerial posts within employment. It clearly is not within football. Within this I am talking about all managerial posts not just the manager of a football club.

You seem to think I was attacking you in some way. Not at all you are one of the more reasonable and accurate posters on here.

I'm currently for my sins employed as a researcher though thankfully on less toxic issues than racism so can differentiate between real and imagined facts.

The basic question us am I less likely to obtain a managerial role within football if I am non white and clearly the answer is yes.

 

Are you sure she didn't say white or darkie coffee, I usually have it with or without that whitey stuff

 

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There are two links in my post. One to Wikipedia and one to the BBC, which you are well aware. At the bottom of the BBC results it clearly states: "Source: ONS Data Visualisation Centre". Are my links to the BBC not good enough either? Is their source a poor one?

There is nowhere on the ONS website that I can find which claims the percentage of black people in the UK is more than the 4%+ of black managers currently plying their trade in English football. If there is could you point me to it. You've categorically claimed I'm wrong but provided no useful data to illustrate as much. For some reason you keep referring to non-white, where as I never made any such claims. I said black, right from the start I said black, the figures back up what I said whichever web-site you use. The reason I specifically said black was that the article that you linked to in this thread (on the BBC by the way) had the headline: "Black players demoralised in England, says Fifa vice-president". I don't think, therefore, that I was straying off issue too much with my post.

You may claim you're not attacking me, but the implication that my post was, if not racist in itself, defending the position of a racist institution was self evident and not appreciated. You've twisted my original post to make out I've made claims that I never made, belittled the links I've provided to back up my claims and argued a point I never raised.

Are there racial issues within football? Of course there are, and I've argued such points a million times on this BBS. Are black people in this country fairly represented by the number of black mangers in the English game if we take their population as a percentage? Yes, they are.

 

Do you know for certain that is why she used that term, or are you making an assumption?